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Date:      Mon, 18 Feb 2019 08:45:38 -0800
From:      Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Stefan Blachmann <sblachmann@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Vladimir Kondratyev <vladimir@kondratyev.su>
Subject:   Re: What is evdev and autoloading?
Message-ID:  <20190218164538.GB2912@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfrEWX9jJVHUkFNijGpk9ii1H9PsUHtq=nD4M%2BnZacpCrQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 09:32:52AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:12 AM Rodney W. Grimes <
> freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> 
> > So to ditch our 5 years support model, kick the code out of the tree and
> > make the users suffer?  The support model is suppose to be under review,
> > and IMHO, if kicking functional code out of the base system is to make
> > it possible to meet some support model we should defanitly take a very
> > close look at that issue.
> >
> > The code has simply gone from being in base to a few git repositories
> > which are probably going to rot every time a breaking ABI change occurs
> > and we wend up with un happy users, un happy developers and bugmisters
> > who have to close bogus bug reports.
> >
> > Have we really moved the state of the art forward by this action, simply
> > in the name of "we could not suppor that code?"
> >
> 
> I don't know. I think the fact that drm2 doesn't support anything newer
> than 5-year-old hardware is a pretty convincing evidence that the old way
> is broken and doesn't work.
> 

When drm2 was unhooked from the build, it was working fine.
drm2 was unhooked because it supposedly interferred with
the drm-stable-kmod and drm-current-kmod ports. 

-- 
Steve



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