From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Apr 2 12:24:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EA815650BE for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 12:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from db@db.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBE289D0E for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 12:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from db@db.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8E9E615650BD; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 12:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C24915650BC for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 12:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from db@db.net) Received: from artemis.db.net (artemis.db.net [45.32.229.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E72789D0A; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 12:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from db@db.net) Received: from night.db.net (artemis.db.net [45.32.229.41]) by artemis.db.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BB610757; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 12:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by night.db.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3AC8139873; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 08:24:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 08:24:32 -0400 From: Diane Bruce To: Adam Weinberger Cc: Mateusz Piotrowski <0mp@freebsd.org>, ports@freebsd.org, Koichiro Iwao , Kurt Jaeger Subject: Re: category for VPN softwares? Message-ID: <20190402122432.GB96855@night.db.net> References: <20190402032434.i5tvmzjrti6bz44s@icepick.vmeta.jp> <20190402044151.GG72200@home.opsec.eu> <20190402054219.pbibp2jxqhtwqkru@icepick.vmeta.jp> <954df870-50bb-c7c0-f559-94dd92fce3a6@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0E72789D0A X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.988,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 12:24:37 -0000 On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 06:13:58AM -0600, Adam Weinberger wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mateusz Piotrowski <0mp@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 10:58, Stefan Esser wrote: > > > > > Am 02.04.19 um 07:42 schrieb Koichiro Iwao: > > > > On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 06:41:51AM +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > > > >> Create a real category vpn and move everything to it ? > > > > > > > > Sounds better! Gentoo has net-vpn category. Just FYI, Gentoo also have > > > > net-dialup category. PPP/PPPoE/L2TP softwares are put under net-dialup > > > > but I feel that classification is too fine. At least creating vpn or > > > > net-vpn souds good. > > > > > > How about a new "real" category vpn > > > > > > I am not sure if it should be vpn or net-vpn. I feel net-vpn is > > more suitable. > > > > > > > and preserving the current categories > > > of the ports as their additional categories (assuming that they are in net > > > vs. security for a reason). > > > > > > > I like the idea. > > Creating new categories is absolutely doable! However, we have a > pretty high bar for justifying it. There's no magic number, but our > (portmgr's) precedent is that the new category must, at the time of > creation, be as full as other categories like it. > > The most important thing in the new category proposal is a > comprehensive list of ports that will be moved to it. Put that into a > review or a PR and we can move forward. Fair warning though, if it's > only about a dozen ports, it most likely will not be approved. > > My approach here is that new categories should be virtual unless the > evidence for hard category is incontrovertible. It's far easier making a virtual category and easier to count ports. e.g. https://www.freshports.org/hamradio We have 101 hamradio related ports with more coming... korean has 43,portuguese has 15,russian has 42 although languages are a special case palm has 15 ports but whatever. ;) I'd be surprised if there weren't more vpn ports than 101 so why not go with a virtual ports category to start with? > > # Adam > > > -- > Adam Weinberger > adamw@adamw.org > https://www.adamw.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- - db@FreeBSD.org db@db.net http://artemis.db.net/~db