From owner-freebsd-standards@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 06:34:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-standards@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0197316A4CE; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 06:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [212.192.164.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8193043D45; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 06:34:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from regency.nsu.ru ([193.124.210.26]) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B6sPO-00064a-DO; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:34:06 +0600 Received: from regency.nsu.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by regency.nsu.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2QEYDxm002748; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:34:13 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: (from danfe@localhost) by regency.nsu.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i2QEYBnX002695; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:34:12 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:34:11 +0600 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav Message-ID: <20040326143411.GA1508@regency.nsu.ru> References: <1080165171.2232.910.camel@cube> <20040325191745.GB71731@stack.nl> <1080247208.2232.1095.camel@cube> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Jilles Tjoelker cc: freebsd-standards@freebsd.org cc: Albert Cahalan cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: drosih@rpi.edu Subject: Re: PATCH for a more-POSIX `ps', and related adventures X-BeenThere: freebsd-standards@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Standards compliance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:34:09 -0000 On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 09:43:21AM +0100, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > Albert Cahalan writes: > > On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 14:17, Jilles Tjoelker wrote: > > > I think that has been a historical mistake in the POSIX standardization. > > > tar/cpio were not standardized, instead a new utility "pax" was > > > invented. This should have been done with ps too [...] > > I would agree, except that nobody uses pax. :-) > > NetBSD and OpenBSD use pax exclusively; their tar and cpio are > symlinks to /bin/pax. How do they handle tar/cpio-specific arguments than? By bloating pax(1) with quite some piece of code? This seems odd. ./danfe