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Date:      Sun, 01 Dec 2013 09:18:47 -0800
From:      David Newman <dnewman@networktest.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Official FreeBSD Binary Packages now available for pkgng
Message-ID:  <529B6F77.4090806@networktest.com>
In-Reply-To: <5272D3A5.7010308@FreeBSD.org>
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On 10/31/13 3:03 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> On 10/30/2013 11:31 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>>>> You can now either continue to use ports with
>>>> portmaster/portupgrade, as before or switch to using binary
>>>> packages only.
>> 
>> I strongly expect that ports will remain a standard feature in
>> the later releases of FreeBSD.
>> 
>> Packages may be nice for the home/desktop user, but when it comes
>> to production servers, one wants to be able to tweak what he is 
>> installing.
>> 
>> FreeBSd is certainly my choice of an OS when I need to install a 
>> server, but if it ends up looking like Microsoft, I will have to 
>> reconsider.
>> 
>> The cost of recompiling a port is way worth the flexibility it
>> offers.
>> 
>> Olivier
> 
> Completely agreed. However, you should not be compiling anything on
> your production machines! It is dangerous because of shlib bumping;
> you may have a broken system. It is dangerous due to dependencies
> being updated before other ports are, possibly breaking those. It
> also adversely affects your performance and load. The list goes on.
> Building on production is a big risk of downtime.
> 
> I recommend setting up ports-mgmt/poudriere on a good 
> non-production-facing box and building packages to your own liking
> with your own OPTIONS on there. Then you can serve out your own
> pkg repository to your production machines. Poudriere is exactly
> what the FreeBSD project is using to build packages as well.

Do you have a recommendation for migrating from a current setup using
portmaster to an all pkg setup?

When building systems I always choose the 'developer' option in
sysinstall. I'd love to lose that for production machines but don't
know if a 'downgrade' to lose the compiler is possible.

Thanks!

dn

> 
> https://fossil.etoilebsd.net/poudriere/doc/trunk/doc/pkgng_repos.wiki
>
> 
> 
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