From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 13:17:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA34316A4CE for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FC743D54 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:17:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i39KHf3U004452; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 22:17:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Nathan Seven From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 09 Apr 2004 12:14:07 PDT." <20040409191407.11538.qmail@web13901.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:17:41 +0200 Message-ID: <4451.1081541861@critter.freebsd.dk> cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: avleeuwen@piwebs.com cc: Atte Peltomaki Subject: Re: Future of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:17:43 -0000 In message <20040409191407.11538.qmail@web13901.mail.yahoo.com>, Nathan Seven w rites: >I just think that's really hurt the adoption of it- >For basic serverside stuff, bits like ACPI and sound >aren't needed at all- Lets not go there. Other people feel the exact opposite and we want FreeBSD to be broadly usable, so we will have to spend time and effort to both sides. >Perhaps once the scheduling and pthread stuff has been >solidified, a "stable base" release should be made? >Meaning that the release as a whole should still be >considered unstable, but using the as-shipped "stable" >kernel config, things should be nice and solid? You know, I also wish we could sysctl kern.rfc748=1 and then se our users smile happy smiles. But it ain't so in my universe, and since I block all exouniverse email as spam, you must be in the same one too. Remember all those western movies where a sign were posted over the piano player: Don't shoot the pianist, -- he's doing the best he can. Well, if you look carefully, you'll see a similar sign hung over the FreeBSD committers. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.