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Date:      Wed, 15 Nov 2017 11:39:10 -0800
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>
To:        Benno Rice <benno@FreeBSD.org>, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>,  "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>,  "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: svn commit: r325828 - head/usr.bin/fortune/datfiles
Message-ID:  <20171115193910.657C829A@spqr.komquats.com>

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Tips become stale and can be themselves contentious. Just consider our bike=
 sheds. Besides, people should read the handbook anyway. Let's simply remov=
e fortune altogether.

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Cy Schubert
<Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> or <cy@freebsd.org>

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-----Original Message-----
From: Benno Rice
Sent: 15/11/2017 08:58
To: Jeremie Le Hen
Cc: src-committers; svn-src-all@freebsd.org; svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: svn commit: r325828 - head/usr.bin/fortune/datfiles






On Nov 15, 2017, at 06:54, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh@FreeBSD.org> wrote:


Hi Benno,

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Benno Rice <benno@freebsd.org> wrote:

Author: benno
Date: Tue Nov 14 21:18:30 2017
New Revision: 325828
URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/325828

Log:
 Remove all fortune datfiles except freebsd-tips.

 Humour is a funny thing. What is funny to one person is not funny to all
 people. What is insightful to one person is similarly not universal. The
 fortune datfiles have been around a long time and have undoubtedly amused
 people but it's time to acknowledge their subjective, and in some cases
 at least potentially offensive, nature and stop distributing them with the
 imprimatur of the FreeBSD project.


Sorry to ask, I'm only loosely following the project, but was this
discussed somewhere?



It was raised to core but I decided to take unilateral action. That=E2=80=
=99s not an indication of any disagreement in core per se, I just made the =
call that in the light of finding Hitler quotes in the file, and the fact t=
hat there were still files clearly marked as offensive in the Makefile, tha=
t trying to be the editors of humour is not something we=E2=80=99re really =
cut out for and that we should get out of the game. I put the MFC timer on =
it so that if anyone wants to mount an argument as to why they should stay =
they can.




 If anyone wishes to distribute these via other mechanisms they are welcome=
 to
 check them out of history and do so.


I don't think there's any rule saying that, but I know people are
usually happy to have a replacing port.  As you removed them, can I
please ask you do this?


Personally I feel that this is the kind of thing that doesn=E2=80=99t need =
to live on. I won=E2=80=99t be making a port of it. If someone else wants t=
o distribute these then they can.




Thanks,

	 Benno.=



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