From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 09:07:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B46216A41C for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:07:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA53743D49 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:07:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5M98jb25293; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Matt Juszczak" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:07:41 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050620134427.R12790@neptune.atopia.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:07:44 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Matt Juszczak [mailto:matt@atopia.net] >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:49 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: FreeBSD Machines dieing, we've tried so much.... > > > > >On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >> Please post dmesg output from both systems. > >The systems end up crashing so I can't do a dmesg.... or do you mean a >general dmesg when they are stable? > Yes. Matt, please slow down and quit panicing for just a second here - you haven't even told us what processor these are on let alone what the hardware manufacturer is. It's like your calling to schedule a doctors appointment and you aren't even telling them if the patient is a man, woman, child, or for that matter, family dog! The vast majority of panics are hardware-related. It is rare nowadays for a usermode program to make the system panic. In particular you said the problem happens more under load. That really points even more to a hardware problem - bad CPU cache ram, bad ram, scsi termination, that sort of thing. Ted