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Date:      Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:59:58 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <brad@stop.mail-abuse.org>
To:        Chris Pressey <cpressey@catseye.mine.nu>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: The beastie boot menu.
Message-ID:  <p06200708bdd2c5c2599c@[10.0.1.2]>
In-Reply-To: <20041130162403.567a4e39.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu>
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At 4:24 PM -0800 2004-11-30, Chris Pressey wrote:

>  And while I have not conducted a formal study, I've seen backouts and
>  backout requests appear far more frequently on the FreeBSD CVS list than
>  on any of the other BSD CVS lists I've followed.

	That could simply be because FreeBSD is the biggest BSD project.

	You see more crime in New York City than you do in Norman 
Oklahoma.  Most of that is due to the fact that NYC proper has 
something like eight million people living there, while the 
population of Norman is just under 100,000, when all the University 
students are in town and attending classes.

>  Now you might say, well FreeBSD only has more backouts because FreeBSD
>  has so many more developers and so much more activity.

	Indeed, I did say just that.

>                                                          That's almost
>  certainly true.  But that's even *more* of a reason to have a cohesive
>  philosophy communicated clearly to the entire project, otherwise the
>  amount of toe-stepping will become unmanageable.

	The number of backouts is not necessarily an indicator of a lack 
of clarity on the overall project philosophy.


	Again, I see no lack of clarity, I see no confusion, and I see no 
floundering.

	I am left seriously wondering just what the heck it is that 
you're going on and on about.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad@stop.mail-abuse.org>

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

     -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania
     Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755

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