From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 10 18:11:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624A416A41B; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9A013C442; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id m0AIBMZO014601 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:11:22 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.5.249] (lodovico.cs.washington.edu [128.208.5.249]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id m0AIBLel007023 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:11:21 -0800 Message-ID: <47865FDA.1020006@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:11:38 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Anderson References: <478556AD.6090400@bsdforen.de> <20080110003524.GB5188@soaustin.net> <4786167D.7060202@freebsd.org> <70e8236f0801100739r4ea9f4a0nf8734d8f3bb9f31e@mail.gmail.com> <1199981082.1713.6.camel@localhost> <47865494.7030304@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <47865494.7030304@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704, Antispam-Engine: 2.6.0.325393, Antispam-Data: 2008.1.10.94949 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: Tom Evans , Joao Barros , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Addressing the pressing performance / bug issues (was "FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community") X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:11:23 -0000 Eric Anderson wrote: > Tom Evans wrote: >> On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 15:39 +0000, Joao Barros wrote: >>> On Jan 10, 2008 12:58 PM, Eric Anderson wrote: >>>> Also - a really good (up to date) guide on setting up a nice >>>> development >>>> environment would probably help huge amounts. I know there are many >>>> different environments, but that's great - we should write them all >>>> up. >>>> That would get more developers up-and-running quicker. >>> This would be *MOST* welcome :-D >> >> man 7 development >> >> It is fairly simple to set up following those instructions. >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Tom > > That only covers part of the development process. Once you get that > part set up, there are many other things to do. Testing changes on a > real system, or testing them on a virtual machine, debugging crashes, > etc. > > Eric Hello all, I've been reading the thread a bit (glossed over the licensing political drumming), and I realize that yes there is in fact a need for addressing issues. Would it be a good idea to compile a series of bugs using a prioritization system based on interest (number of stakeholders) and/or funding (say Cisco or Intel devotes X number of dollars for a feature)? I would think that that would be an effective system for gaging priority perhaps. Either way, quick links to a series of bug reports would be a good idea maybe, with some sort of escalation functionality for stale PR/bug reports. Does the current PR system do that? Feedback is more than welcome. Thanks :), -Garrett PS I'll try to keep the topic on track as this is originally written for the purpose of providing solutions, as opposed to just discuss "political fluff", as it were.