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Date:      Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:23:47 GMT
From:      Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@neomedia.it>
To:        Kent Stewart <kstewart@3-cities.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 4.0 questions
Message-ID:  <20000316.234700@bartequi.ottodomain.org>
In-Reply-To: <38D00571.E009CFEA@3-cities.com>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 3/15/00, 10:49:37 PM, Kent Stewart <kstewart@3-cities.com> wrote=20
regarding Re: 4.0 questions:


> Mark Ovens wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 01:30:21PM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > J McKitrick wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:12:55PM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ``make buildworld'' increased from 1 hour 40 mins to 2 hours 3=
5mins
> > > > > though :-O
> > > >
> > > > What kind of box are you running?
> > >
> > > I wanted to ask the same question because on my 450 a buildworld
> > > requires 1936 seconds (49 mins WClock),
> >
> > Go on, cheer me up why don't you :)
> >
> >      9102.88 real      6802.06 user      1620.34 sys

> You are probably even at this point. I followed your Ensoniq episode
> and purchased a es1371. Next, I have followed your multi-booting
> Win/Win2K/FreeBSD and am in the process of adding a 5.1GB drive with a=

> larger UDMA-66 drive, which will allow me to add FreeBSD as a boot
> option. You just didn't know about all of the side effects you have
> produced :).

> Cheers,

> Kent


Dear Kent, Jonathon and Mark,

as (yet) another side effect, I run ... two FreeBSD versions (3-STABLE=20
and 4.0 ehem -STABLE, soon to try 5.0-CURRENT) on *3* hard disks --=20
six Oses in all so far.

I have followed this thread and I would like to add a caveat:

DANGER ! DANGER ! DANGER !  if you happen to reboot (e.g. power=20
failure etc.) after booting with the 4.0 kernel, you may be LOST. You=20
may lose your FreeBSD installation. Restoring from backup (you have=20
done a backup, haven't you ?) is not exactly a joy :-) =20

Well, when trying to install -CURRENT, it happened to me *sigh*
However, I ran another -STABLE on another slice (paranoia is safe :-)=20
and it was straightforward to fsck from there. In fact, in that case,=20
you canNOT fsck from the would-be -CURRENT, ie you cannot mount " / "=20
R/W any longer.

Another remark.
If you have another slice with -STABLE, a viable and quick solution to=20
fix an unrecoverable make world is ... to make installworld=20
DESTDIR=3D/mnt from the -STABLE (you've suitably mounted your s****ed=20
would-be -CURRENT partitions under /mnt and /mnt/usr, of course). If=20
you have documented your mergemaster action in the past (e.g. by=20
writing down and next copying the updated config files somewhere),=20
restoring -STABLE is a child's play (less than 15 minutes ;-)))
  =20
I had to do this in another trial of mine -- *re-sigh*=20

However, I have been happily running -STABLE and -CURRENT (now=20
-Release), and I have just finished burning a couple of data CD under=20
-CURRENT. It works like charm.

Best regards (yawn)
Salvo





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