From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 24 07:39:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E987CE217D5 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 07:39:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@erwanlegrand.com) Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (relay6-d.mail.gandi.net [IPv6:2001:4b98:c:538::198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2FFE6D0D1 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 07:39:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@erwanlegrand.com) X-Originating-IP: 74.125.83.44 Received: from mail-pg0-f44.google.com (mail-pg0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) (Authenticated sender: moi@erwan.legrand.name) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D41D5FB87E for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 09:39:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-pg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id p5so2502537pgn.7 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 00:39:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgMwaLpP4537OI0LYvbFskFAelc4j+SwZU7sdSDqcOlAODFxlJS AUlpzq+HgcZinY025j3lT4FJ+idNrhQOvhj52L8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QD7w/gNbCX3YSLa52vxWRWtLZ/HOEnEsKNTq2JtAbyg+WCNi360bqMYhysBcjb9Nr6+51mSLSmOXwlH/Mf/ZAc= X-Received: by 10.99.117.81 with SMTP id f17mr4054089pgn.195.1506238769130; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 00:39:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.163.3 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 00:39:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Erwan Legrand Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 09:39:28 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: 11.1-RELEASE kernel panics while importing ZFS pool To: Adam Vande More Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 07:39:34 -0000 On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 5:43 AM, Erwan Legrand > wrote: >> I have made an attempt at upgrading from FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE to >> 11.1-RELEASE. Unfortunately, the 11.1-RELEASE kernel panics with the >> following error: >> >> panic: Solaris(panic): blkptr at 0xfffffe00033e5f80 has invalid CHECKSUM 0 >> >> The backtrace is as follows: >> >> kbd_backtrace+0x67 >> vpanic+0x186 >> panic+0x43 >> vcmn_err+0xc2 >> zfs_panic_recover+0x5a >> zfs_blkptr_verify+0x8b >> zio_read+0x2c >> spa_load_verify_cb+0x14a >> traverse_visitbp+0x1f8 >> traverse_visitbp+0x400 >> traverse_visitbp+0x400 >> traverse_visitbp+0x400 >> traverse_visitbp+0x400 >> traverse_dnode+0xc7 >> traverse_visitbp+0x753 >> traverse_impl+0x22b >> traverse_pool+0x16d >> spa_load+0x1bce >> >> The root file system is part of this ZFS pool, which means I can't >> even boot my system. Attempting to import the pool from the shell >> prompt after booting from 11.1-RELEASE installation media also results >> in a kernel panic. >> >> I have searched bugs.freebsd.org, but none of the currently registered >> issues appear to match. (Or so it seems to me.) >> >> The 11.0-RELEASE kernel boots from this ZFS pool without trouble. >> Thus, I have reverted to 11.0 for now. >> >> Obviously, I'd like to upgrade at some point. >> >> Any suggestion is welcome. > > > Did you try a scrub on 11.0 first? I did try to run a scrub. It does not find any error and it does not make any difference in the end. I forgot to say that this is an AMD64 kernel. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 24 13:15:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56910E28383 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 13:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D24FA758D5 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 13:15:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id v8ODFZZS030315 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 15:15:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Bernt Hansson Subject: Openoffice Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 15:15:35 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 13:15:49 -0000 Hello list! Trying to build Openoffice but it stops at this point. [ build DEP ] LNK:Library/ucpgio1.uno.so R=/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0 && S=$R/main && O=$S/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro && W=$O/workdir && mkdir -p $W/Dep/LinkTarget/Library/ && RESPONSEFILE=/tmp/gbuild..IqhvmDJ4 && cat ${RESPONSEFILE} /dev/null | xargs -n 200 cat > $W/Dep/LinkTarget/Library/ucpgio1.uno.so.d && rm -f ${RESPONSEFILE} touch /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_provider.d touch /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_content.d touch /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_resultset.d touch /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_datasupplier.d touch /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_seekable.d Waited for 5-6 hours for it to contiune, but no. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 24 16:46:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2580BE2B378 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 16:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.139]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "IronPort Appliance Demo Certificate", Issuer "IronPort Appliance Demo Certificate" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67FAB7E8FA for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 16:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 25 Sep 2017 02:11:41 +0930 X-Envelope-From: ws@au.dyndns.ws X-Envelope-To: bsalai@gmail.com Received: from predator-ii.buffyverse (predator-ii.buffyverse [172.17.17.136]) by lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v8OGfaVs013642; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 02:11:37 +0930 (ACST) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Message-ID: <1506271295.2905.2.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Subject: Re: ESP8266 with Arduino IDE From: Wayne Sierke To: Kyle Evans Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Brad Salai Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 02:11:35 +0930 In-Reply-To: References: <5070A4D6-BB0D-423E-8CE4-92C501D78AE7@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws [172.17.17.142]); Mon, 25 Sep 2017 02:11:37 +0930 (ACST) for IP:'172.17.17.136' DOMAIN:'predator-ii.buffyverse' HELO:'predator-ii.buffyverse' FROM:'ws@au.dyndns.ws' RCPT:'' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws [172.17.17.142]); Mon, 25 Sep 2017 02:11:37 +0930 (ACST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 172.17.17.142 X-Scanned-By: SpamAssassin 3.004001(2015-04-28) X-Scanned-By: ClamAV X-Spam-Score: -1 () ALL_TRUSTED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 16:46:57 -0000 On Thu, 2017-05-18 at 22:37 -0500, Kyle Evans wrote: > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Brad Salai wrote: > > > I installed the Arduino 1.6.12 package on FreeBSD 11. The install > > went > > fine. I added the appropriate URL to the preferences dialog, but > > the "Board > > Manager" doesn't appear at the top of Board pop up menu. Has anyone > > solved > > this? > > Brad > > > > > > My apologies, I meant to CC the list originally. An explanation, for > anyone > else curious: > > I actually explicitly patch out the board manager because it won't > necessarily function the way you would expect it to on other > platforms > since it downloads not only the core but platform-specific tools, and > FreeBSD isn't officially supported upstream. > > Brad indicated to me off-list that he's wishing to use an > ESP8266/NodeMCU > board- this is a WIP at the moment now that I have a unit to test > with. > Obstacles in the form of binutils strangeness and life have gotten in > the > way since I received the unit, but work is resuming on this and I > hope to > have an esp8266 toolchain worked out fairly soon. > > Thanks, > > Kyle Evans Hi Kyle, I've just started investigating the options for doing EPS8266 development on FreeBSD (in the first instance using a WeMos D1 R2 board) and found this message. Has there been any progress? Thanks, Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 24 19:05:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A36E2DE94 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 19:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net [212.11.71.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2693F83BDB for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 19:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from outbound-edge-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (outbound-edge-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net [212.11.71.230]) by outbound-queue-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EF321CFB for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:04:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from cpc89374-jarr11-2-0-cust348.16-2.cable.virginm.net (HELO amd.asgard.uk) (82.13.141.93) (smtp-auth username fbsd%pop3.dgmm.net, mechanism plain) by outbound-edge-adx-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTPA; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:04:07 +0100 From: Dave To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FFmpeg, x265 and slower encoding on faster PC Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:04:06 +0100 Message-ID: <2072440.QC9m92yOZi@amd.asgard.uk> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.10 (FreeBSD/10.3-RELEASE-p20; KDE/4.14.30; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Gradwell-MongoId: 59c801a7.18465-2c4f-1 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: fbsd@pop3.dgmm.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 19:05:10 -0000 Before I head off into diags land and asking elsewhere, has anyone seen any weirdnes with x265 encoding speeds FFmpeg on FreeBSD? The specific weirdness isn't just slow encoding, that's expected in comparison to, eg x264. The specific weirdness is my 6 core AMD Phenom II 3.3GHz based PC is encoding significantly slower than my 2 core Intel i5 @2.6GHz (4 with hyperthreading). I'm wondering if either AMD is not as well supported or the Phemon II is just so old it doesn't have the right support. Encoding with X264 is far faster on the AMD the Intell box. AMD box: CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor (3311.05-MHz K8-class CPU) real memory = 8589934592 (8192 MB) nvidia0: on vgapci0 uname -a FreeBSD amd.asgard.uk 10.3-RELEASE-p20 FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p20 #0: Wed Jul 12 03:13:07 UTC 2017 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Intel Box CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz (2675.02-MHz K8-class CPU) real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) nvidia0: on vgapci0 uname -a FreeBSD testbox.asgard.uk 10.3-RELEASE-p20 FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p20 #0: Wed Jul 12 03:13:07 UTC 2017 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 ffmpeg version 3.3.4 Copyright (c) 2000-2017 the FFmpeg developers built with FreeBSD clang version 3.4.1 (tags/RELEASE_34/dot1-final 208032) 20140512 Built with default options. I've tried swapping the video cards over to see if FFMPeG or the x265 library was using h/w acceleration. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 24 20:47:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C46E00E18 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boards188@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x230.google.com (mail-yw0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5E94296E for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boards188@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x230.google.com with SMTP id o143so3557291ywd.12 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 13:47:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=E4VvaAN0vIp708rf3Jzthrl+AhR7w5/4G9Vhw5w+g6c=; b=Hz0Rg7e/57UEwrX4y1DcLPZu34BObRORWSY9oumWVPX+Yc8ktZvlVl46ySfU+APauc CE4tEco+qyUaEZMmp2Y9QZfyvWl18uuaKPhb5AYNs99TaXR0kSFW+iNbyFKEM3uTWVVf cLCfJz8aGugJRoZEgdH2UoIheDTJcwBJWbqiLO0SVAuzt0Z2G/6ecZ6DGjmZ8LMdCMCi sMz/q7WyaxNGhygBOK6QBsQ4StdeRtdCkbtCO+vuNYzp22vKKkuKKYuhyPUh24rZ0quH 8uvcx8UQ/81VPdO7hxFv3Za+zwn5Y/CQ8N/3VTAAlkd9mIYhEiMs/gLST6EInZHTh6bz f8fQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=E4VvaAN0vIp708rf3Jzthrl+AhR7w5/4G9Vhw5w+g6c=; b=dND7p6urhGHdgw3+VZg58gtQRbRfW+uHNttHpn2LGLDCagr2HWZFOfEOqZ3Xg6kd2H lY+BcmojveXyEz8RjE7d2p/zL3jOLnA1WDS2lICuxDHnw1fctLr96QXOZR/uYn8NRRsa lUniGtXUCEiSQ2upUuHlNa2pDmAJIdKO/fbip9mHIk326rb/CXl8aNmpv35Klih5capa +LkzfClItqgemfk8TuW/LsX/07q6wvngPNyTK+ty97d0z6kEiCpDsh3yCa8Wbe6nT37z Ll1+oSrPdgQs8lEQgrnY2QRTb6cixvFxvx16d8ZiuPAMckClwjuKa/+QO81kO/oWQOyC 1iDw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUh2wPl1+Pg9QZrXVGlMsFtBBYxbq4B7QF7lObl4ZFUmmmTEtHsR U8EZUv1byjetZWP1JMlWRocIV97jmALKnIrFLQk7Vg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDLj+lNVjoxKIqXzaigiWQA7QcdQNWtk7uBDI5YSE/eTk+AtoSpZ22qDoKtwpT6z8+XeUY73ACAuul8Xyru7bg= X-Received: by 10.37.177.35 with SMTP id g35mr3389046ybj.51.1506286071319; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 13:47:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.163.12 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 13:47:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Pope Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 15:47:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Pkg upgrade question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:47:53 -0000 All, I am new to FreeBSD (obviously) and have FreeBSD 11.1 installed as a VM guest inside VirtualBox running on Mac OSX. I am using bridged mode for networking. Network speed is very good. My problem is when I upgrade packages. I run "sudo pkg update", then run "sudo pkg upgrade". The new packages download very fast, 400 to 800 kB/s, but there is always ~75 seconds between the ending of one package and the starting of the next package. Is that normal? I am currently updating 106 packages, so it will require 2 hours of time between package downloads in addition to the time to download the packages. Thanks in advance for any suggestions and/or knowledge. Jason K Pope 214.566.8527 boards188@gmail.com Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 24 20:55:03 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BC5E011ED for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22a.google.com (mail-ua0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2C522EC6 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id l94so3305642ual.11 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 13:55:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=nLvybBMBnccJUllQhVzpozCrchQvS+xe1J1pTaZlWZs=; b=Fm7WgJGx3Fq73G1mYO3zs5fS/oPY5y/0SvXvfXsWoNyLmL6wIvBVJjQav7zznAA2cy 4hthYvCVBPjdacJ1hAFNb2esKuiOrTUVioRJ8r/lKpaJzVZ/xjcr3cMzaTu9S91WwH1L UaRzNDTtT/q8E2nm75HJ4mXA99JRjCMm7Jrbj+QC3N4MhQ9QwVgXN3P9aMmuNqMoDvxY pp91fG06E2sndw/6b3xYQwz+mViWiufa3OKUnwI8Pc55OaWPB0Fc6rJYIifJont8McfJ b+1awzdUcH2+GzKkt8ucL4ydtqt0Bza1Xo1YOyPxAObOsmQh+Z4MvG5FyVSwuj+mUljj uD0w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=nLvybBMBnccJUllQhVzpozCrchQvS+xe1J1pTaZlWZs=; b=WxH4FpMulSptXrZ5osTZCtJoivv9RnUhtcqMXK3tMr6Gx8zYfneOzrakBTdcDjN398 tNFRLqOpRTl01aRWEC2ek+0wNUtnemm406jndq4Z6YBs5B2XL8dnkICqs9kop4FMJQHk 9QoCGZB5kIlc9DmyDlhjbI63ZIvyKT6gRWYp+4KEaZW959bfhht2YZqkYLhk+heHADJU uTyc1Jvk940CstnfmtAkI5x+rjj5kLip4uu4YbXPZ3F13IgLX25zzfy2dLRVLtejAqh7 +kQAgXB1Ht7wvxD+8u0WQbfflfYV7LEByuDY8b+y3U3l1RM5yfgDZ1LPZfQC8CWML9Iv maPA== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUi+xavwJLaqs6w2O2ZgjoYg/Jf04dxUBpoekOaxs8Ruqa9kNfPe L1mY30QKv3wdRyPTpI8/E9vIeADV1fwmqjuG/9Q= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QBNSiotolzs0aZM5TdguYo3zLphlBTYc2MUvWsPOo3zuSrI4iR9ej/Uxy0BUM1oxMEbAMM5Mdxwe5/5bRNxiSQ= X-Received: by 10.176.70.153 with SMTP id r25mr5599554uaa.74.1506286502004; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 13:55:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ben Woods Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:54:51 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Pkg upgrade question To: Jason Pope , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:55:03 -0000 On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 at 10:48 pm, Jason Pope wrote: > I am new to FreeBSD (obviously) and have FreeBSD 11.1 installed as a VM > guest inside VirtualBox running on Mac OSX. I am using bridged mode for > networking. Network speed is very good. > > My problem is when I upgrade packages. I run "sudo pkg update", then run > "sudo pkg upgrade". The new packages download very fast, 400 to 800 kB/s, > but there is always ~75 seconds between the ending of one package and the > starting of the next package. Is that normal? > > I am currently updating 106 packages, so it will require 2 hours of time > between package downloads in addition to the time to download the packages. > > Hi Jason, No, this is not normal, but I have never seen it before. Note that pkg creates a new connection for each package it downloads, so there is normally a couple of seconds to negotiate it, but not 75secs. Do other internet connections from the VM take this long to establish also? Regards, Ben -- -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 24 22:16:24 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE67E028A6 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 22:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boards188@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x22c.google.com (mail-yw0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABE7564306 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 22:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boards188@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id x131so3614745ywa.10 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 15:16:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=0Ap2lNYmcZA/KlaM2M4VKmRJWI2WieZq3yZ/StnzzxU=; b=nyemkDcp7aarotcyHKmz3X7SGgn4IuaAQcCkvBmcJn2VQ29WShpaSJQ2AzlmSWoUtv JOU96JC6LMbeFDTygWdWXP2W1LQ4IONW5D9FuvES5336AcVEKXVymRqoDABmfiw8/ZRd 79H3HSu80w+w+cCwZnJBTHee+1oICaeu8t4Gq8gEh4DbLOcQHMA5imrQBmNIpzM7f6sZ yj73+2/u2p3vKAq14VC96lIU1M2jqtb5SR7yDnToCzv3nVC+AGBEXy91/3PP6JgklE+f jF0zyKzoqOQpdMvF8iOh5aFJt0YdKL50Q4TGGofC+CWPRyERZqXeZoVSorSBYY/EUqkx UgHw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0Ap2lNYmcZA/KlaM2M4VKmRJWI2WieZq3yZ/StnzzxU=; b=A7bRaQHmDSbRL6s0ijQPGM10ER2MKskcLt5pdvJ5jukY6I4lFMeuaszIK0MuR+5+SK hMBbkmDmcdrxxCrS7IslfsnW7uygYIvKbpEgNL9pldarGik6p5hQLcfOQqVF1Q974umV +ils62DOHC+mM3KnqF7up4FvSnEjYQDUkMsidp62FN76v96atsqfds+TLGkntaQWgvAl P8cWJTZinue1zdPKmrFdCX/guyCk3FSWAXbDAED+KskBMJj1oKz/aFrvcAfXjEhEwo5B jVyR/HK/2Bi6FQWRBSjATxI1sQ0m96XWRnGrj9nyA/XJtfXLHlfI0zLzFw9+MD8Th4Yo 8vKg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjSGQDUD9fD+Mcq9fI/Y6Mq4iewoVhSnH9RehUks1FM5Puph10k z2EVc7mIhdntxERvQP4K4reO1fbZm9aVEcOaMkE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QCur3VMTsmdWovFvuTFlKpUWhqWqDleFzNvwEJ/K8FTej7HS9QDplIftqUnqlfwYEVpKloMAIRXOCkixX6Yg8c= X-Received: by 10.129.29.7 with SMTP id d7mr2965215ywd.468.1506291382322; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 15:16:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.163.12 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 15:16:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jason Pope Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 17:16:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Pkg upgrade question To: Ben Woods Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 22:16:24 -0000 Thank you for the quick response. No, I don't believe other connections take this long to establish. At least navigating between websites works fine and appears to be very responsive. I just installed a new package with "sudo pkg install wget"; it takes several minutes for the "Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue..." to complete. I then get the response, "Proceed with this action? [y/N]:". I answer "y" and it again takes right at 75 seconds for the download to begin. Jason K Pope 214.566.8527 boards188@gmail.com Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends. On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Ben Woods wrote: > On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 at 10:48 pm, Jason Pope wrote: > >> I am new to FreeBSD (obviously) and have FreeBSD 11.1 installed as a VM >> guest inside VirtualBox running on Mac OSX. I am using bridged mode for >> networking. Network speed is very good. >> >> My problem is when I upgrade packages. I run "sudo pkg update", then run >> "sudo pkg upgrade". The new packages download very fast, 400 to 800 kB/s, >> but there is always ~75 seconds between the ending of one package and the >> starting of the next package. Is that normal? >> >> I am currently updating 106 packages, so it will require 2 hours of time >> between package downloads in addition to the time to download the >> packages. >> >> Hi Jason, > > No, this is not normal, but I have never seen it before. > > Note that pkg creates a new connection for each package it downloads, so > there is normally a couple of seconds to negotiate it, but not 75secs. > > Do other internet connections from the VM take this long to establish also? > > Regards, > Ben > -- > > -- > From: Benjamin Woods > woodsb02@gmail.com > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 25 10:17:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1F6E0FCEA for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 10:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3AA17562F for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 10:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v8PAHX4c023956 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:17:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v8PAHWJG023953 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:17:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:17:32 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD questions Subject: pkg: sqlite: database disk image is malformed Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 10:17:44 -0000 Something interesting happened while upgrading one of my systems: ===> Registering installation for tcl86-8.6.7 Installing tcl86-8.6.7... pkg-static: sqlite error while executing iterator in file pkgdb_iterator.c:1035: database disk image is malformed pkg-static: sqlite error while executing INSERT OR REPLACE INTO files (path, sha256, package_id) VALUES (?1, ?2, ?3) in file pkgdb.c:1788: database disk image is malformed *** Error code 70 Running pkg check -{B,d,s} gives: # pkg check -B Checking all packages: 100% # pkg check -d Checking all packages: 100% # pkg check -s Checking all packages: 100% System is running ZFS with checksums enabled, but with non-ECC memory, thus memory corruption is possible. ZFS says the pool is healthy. Any chance of learning which values pkg is attempting to insert or replace? Running pkg delete lang/tcl86 removed that port and all its consumers, yet the SQL error persists. I have an identical system next to this little bugger, so I could steal /var/db/local.sqlite from that system ... -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 25 11:53:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641F4E119E4 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC75D77B0A for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v8PBrAvY024501 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:53:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v8PBr9MN024498 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:53:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:53:09 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: pkg: sqlite: database disk image is malformed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:53:18 -0000 On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:17+0200, Trond Endrestøl wrote: > I have an identical system next to this little bugger, so I could > steal /var/db/local.sqlite from that system ... Problem solved using local.sqlite from the identical system. Corrupted local.sqlite is available on request if anyone is willing to debug it. -- Trond. 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Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@woodcruft.co.uk) Received: from a-painless.mh.aa.net.uk (a-painless.mh.aa.net.uk [81.187.30.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01C156BF45 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:29:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@woodcruft.co.uk) Received: from woodcruft.co.uk ([81.187.27.248] helo=lime.woodcruft.co.uk) by a-painless.mh.aa.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dwbs6-0003GU-3s; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:29:02 +0100 Received: by lime.woodcruft.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 05283804B2; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:28:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:28:52 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Bernt Hansson Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Openoffice Message-ID: <20170925222852.GA93860@woodcruft.co.uk> Reply-To: Frank Shute Mail-Followup-To: Bernt Hansson , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p1 amd64 X-Organisation: 'woodcruft.co.uk' X-PGP-Key: http://woodcruft.co.uk/misc/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:29:06 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 03:15:35PM +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > Hello list! >=20 > Trying to build Openoffice but it stops at this point. >=20 > [ build DEP ] LNK:Library/ucpgio1.uno.so > R=3D/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0 && S=3D$R/main &&= =20 > O=3D$S/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro && W=3D$O/workdir && mkdir -p=20 > $W/Dep/LinkTarget/Library/ && RESPONSEFILE=3D/tmp/gbuild..IqhvmDJ4 && cat= =20 > ${RESPONSEFILE} /dev/null | xargs -n 200 cat >=20 > $W/Dep/LinkTarget/Library/ucpgio1.uno.so.d && rm -f ${RESPONSEFILE} > touch=20 > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbs= dx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_provider.d > touch=20 > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbs= dx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_content.d > touch=20 > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbs= dx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_resultset.d > touch=20 > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbs= dx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_datasupplier.d > touch=20 > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbs= dx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_seekable.d >=20 > Waited for 5-6 hours for it to contiune, but no. =20 I can't see any kind of error in that lot. A few questions come to mind though. Why not LibreOffice? I thought that was where all the developer effort goes nowadays. I don't use wordprocessors, so I'm possibly out of touch. Depending on how powerful your hardware is and how busy it is, it is not uncommon to wait a long time during the build before you get any kind of sign that things are progressing with big ports ie. OO, Chrome etc. You don't mention how you're building the port: # make install clean or portupgrade or some other tool. If it appears to be doing nothing, have a look at the output of: $ ps ax | less and $ top those 2 commands should quickly show you what is going on and what is currently occupying the build process. 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I forgot that I get an IPv6 allocation and I have seen that cause slowdowns on other machines due to DNS difficulties. So, I edited my /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf file and un-commented the IP_VERSION line and changed it from 0 to 4, which forces "pkg" to only use IPv4; it looks like this: IP_VERSION = 4 It is VERY fast on the updates now! Jason K Pope 214.566.8527 boards188@gmail.com Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13 On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Jason Pope wrote: > Thank you for the quick response. > > No, I don't believe other connections take this long to establish. At > least navigating between websites works fine and appears to be very > responsive. > > I just installed a new package with "sudo pkg install wget"; it takes > several minutes for the "Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue..." to > complete. I then get the response, "Proceed with this action? [y/N]:". I > answer "y" and it again takes right at 75 seconds for the download to begin. > > Jason K Pope > 214.566.8527 <(214)%20566-8527> > boards188@gmail.com > > Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his > friends. > > On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Ben Woods wrote: > >> On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 at 10:48 pm, Jason Pope wrote: >> >>> I am new to FreeBSD (obviously) and have FreeBSD 11.1 installed as a VM >>> guest inside VirtualBox running on Mac OSX. I am using bridged mode for >>> networking. Network speed is very good. >>> >>> My problem is when I upgrade packages. I run "sudo pkg update", then run >>> "sudo pkg upgrade". The new packages download very fast, 400 to 800 kB/s, >>> but there is always ~75 seconds between the ending of one package and the >>> starting of the next package. Is that normal? >>> >>> I am currently updating 106 packages, so it will require 2 hours of time >>> between package downloads in addition to the time to download the >>> packages. >>> >>> Hi Jason, >> >> No, this is not normal, but I have never seen it before. >> >> Note that pkg creates a new connection for each package it downloads, so >> there is normally a couple of seconds to negotiate it, but not 75secs. >> >> Do other internet connections from the VM take this long to establish >> also? >> >> Regards, >> Ben >> -- >> >> -- >> From: Benjamin Woods >> woodsb02@gmail.com >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 26 00:30:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E102E2756F for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 00:30:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D94A6EB37 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 00:30:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 09892E2756E; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 00:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09145E2756D for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 00:30:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:3d::42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "prime.gushi.org", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E08076EB36 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 00:30:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (danm@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v8Q0UBxH059043 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:30:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 prime.gushi.org v8Q0UBxH059043 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gushi.org; s=prime2014; t=1506385668; bh=TLJGod7t4bSVFnvyvP5nYdULHvA3tDWokzwxeHO8Xyo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; z=Date:=20Mon,=2025=20Sep=202017=2017:30:11=20-0700=20(PDT)|From:=2 0"Dan=20Mahoney=20(Gushi)"=20|To:=20question s@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Why=20does=20chsh=20not=20support=20PAM?; b=BrSW4ajryegkXmsuYRQEUZunFjHegrT9tVPYQZk58oxKyj7fdciy7Y3jHWD0wyuWJ u9+yAttL1CKXHmEnvktkKT0xLj1Jcy8olsbGarb+jiE2CbOSgRZzFEUdaPVXcTD6vF 1nlwX5pFNeU2ltEwhIZJewk9BB1Pvx/v78bSmO36Pc0O4vnV0U4C9egSAYdr4CnTXO tqJ66dyv3e28rm08VYOHhomuqA26HClgFqKRoTTuw7qOfsdaP5OupId0x+eAgM37fQ wOZW6Qpi2LLUjMoKyv1caoNXkEix/xfTssv/NtwDEIlwmfmYz4/PeJAW2v+5vvv9bo nq3KgZm9FGjHQ== X-DomainKeys: Sendmail DomainKeys Filter v1.0.2 prime.gushi.org v8Q0UBxH059043 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:user-agent: x-openpgp-key-id:mime-version:content-type; b=dj0v3LlZYM88PrIxnDZ2r7fpEYvI03xd/yZ7zrBy3IIlFZYHHKLb0lajHU52P2J9B m492EQvvVE9qktRyqe0oQ== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v8Q0UBfq059042; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:30:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danm) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:30:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dan Mahoney (Gushi)" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Why does chsh not support PAM? Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x624BB249 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 26 Sep 2017 00:27:49 +0000 (UTC) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 00:30:28 -0000 Hey all, At the day job, our systems are Kerberized. People log in with a kerberized ssh client (which checks Kerberos internally, rather than via a PAM module), or use GSSAPI-enabled ssh. People get root via ksu. Everyone has a "*" as their password entry in /etc/master.passwd All this stuff is in -BASE. Here's my question: Why have we not PAM-ified chsh yet? Such that a user can change their shell or GECOS information using only their kerberos password. How hard would this be to implement, rather than adding a hardcoded check against the password file in programs like chsh? -Dan -- --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 26 05:05:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3A1E2F221 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 05:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4D0076844 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 05:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id v8Q55DNo036010 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 07:05:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: Openoffice To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <20170925222852.GA93860@woodcruft.co.uk> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <781c39a9-9bd4-4cf3-a4b8-5b47a4a6d044@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 07:05:13 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170925222852.GA93860@woodcruft.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 05:05:26 -0000 On 09/26/17 00:28, Frank Shute wrote: > On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 03:15:35PM +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> Hello list! >> >> Trying to build Openoffice but it stops at this point. >> >> [ build DEP ] LNK:Library/ucpgio1.uno.so >> R=/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0 && S=$R/main && >> O=$S/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro && W=$O/workdir && mkdir -p >> $W/Dep/LinkTarget/Library/ && RESPONSEFILE=/tmp/gbuild..IqhvmDJ4 && cat >> ${RESPONSEFILE} /dev/null | xargs -n 200 cat > >> $W/Dep/LinkTarget/Library/ucpgio1.uno.so.d && rm -f ${RESPONSEFILE} >> touch >> /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_provider.d >> touch >> /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_content.d >> touch >> /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_resultset.d >> touch >> /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_datasupplier.d >> touch >> /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_seekable.d >> >> Waited for 5-6 hours for it to contiune, but no. > > I can't see any kind of error in that lot. > > A few questions come to mind though. Why not LibreOffice? No support for lpd. > > I thought that was where all the developer effort goes nowadays. I don't > use wordprocessors, so I'm possibly out of touch. > > Depending on how powerful your hardware is and how busy it is, it is not > uncommon to wait a long time during the build before you get any kind of > sign that things are progressing with big ports ie. OO, Chrome etc. Firefox take about an hour to build. Oo used a bit over 12 hours earlier. > > You don't mention how you're building the port: > > # make install clean make LOCALIZED_LANG=sv And it still doing "nothing" > > or portupgrade or some other tool. > > If it appears to be doing nothing, have a look at the output of: > > $ ps ax | less ps ax shows the same time stamps every time I run ps. 24467 0 I+ 0:00.07 make LOCALIZED_LANG=sv 24535 0 I+ 0:00.06 make CONFIG_DONE_APACHE-OPENOFFICE-DEVEL=1 /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/.stage_done.apache-openoffice._usr_local 24610 0 I+ 0:00.69 perl -S /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solenv/bin/build.pl --all -P1 -- -P2 27480 0 I+ 0:00.00 perl -S /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solenv/bin/build.pl --all -P1 -- -P2 27481 0 I+ 0:00.01 dmake -P2 27484 0 I+ 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/bash -c cd .. && gmake -r -j2 && gmake -r deliverlog 27485 0 I+ 6:50.15 gmake -r -j2 > > and > > $ top Top shows no build proccess. The build is stuck in the same place > those 2 commands should quickly show you what is going on and what is > currently occupying the build process. > > > Regards, > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 26 05:27:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7597CE2F813 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 05:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0538F7702D for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 05:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:1c1d:86a1:a200:b700]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD9369BAA for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 05:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Why does chsh not support PAM? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:27:15 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fRikBOwAkQH0hj8uA8JlmxWh3Se3ltQWE" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 05:27:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --fRikBOwAkQH0hj8uA8JlmxWh3Se3ltQWE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="3UheRrcsXvx3ldEjiLDcb90mnakfGBg8l"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does chsh not support PAM? References: In-Reply-To: --3UheRrcsXvx3ldEjiLDcb90mnakfGBg8l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 26/09/2017 01:30, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) wrote: > At the day job, our systems are Kerberized.=C2=A0 People log in with a > kerberized ssh client (which checks Kerberos internally, rather than vi= a > a PAM module), or use GSSAPI-enabled ssh. >=20 > People get root via ksu. >=20 > Everyone has a "*" as their password entry in /etc/master.passwd >=20 > All this stuff is in -BASE. >=20 > Here's my question: Why have we not PAM-ified chsh yet?=C2=A0 Such that= a > user can change their shell or GECOS information using only their > kerberos password. >=20 > How hard would this be to implement, rather than adding a hardcoded > check against the password file in programs like chsh? >=20 It is quite likely that we haven't PAM-ified chsh(1) or chpass(1) simply because no-one has volunteered to do the work yet. I suspect that the code required to do the job is not particularly challenging, but as this is obviously a security sensitive area, it should be carefully reviewed to ensure that you aren't giving away far more than you intended to. If you're interested in having a go at implementing something like this, talk to Dag-Erling (des@FreeBSD.org) who is the author of the PAM system in FreeBSD and a former Security Officer. Then please do stick some patches up on phabricator for review. Cheers, Matthew --3UheRrcsXvx3ldEjiLDcb90mnakfGBg8l-- --fRikBOwAkQH0hj8uA8JlmxWh3Se3ltQWE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJZyeU7XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATrOEP/3K5PdOW6+Omk/tNJQTJQobn l7m7EKFQNAa39KQY5hCrJiB8zxEqMxkSc/eHlhgTzlvtbBLdsYhEA0jd5lF3QR1J WS2G7ajF3V/fR3GdhR/4bSVj0IW0YDc+MwFM5ne7B1BYxYpzKbtZov/pRmj4EXCV BqOFYqQISktHJIws7FhMasRx/g075YIaR2La3YyimjVIsBFBhvmKVmNcQ0xiuHMm cw19CyATiVElJ+YHfUpgyN2FSVk0UNHtromZAmfLP9WinXxShouuxHKfm7QjNEnz qKOY8KeSA1AnB1NYHdQT2mi1Eexlv7uxPpbW89Y+u9xHckRqmzK8WnngudcepLDU HuJ/UwPx3FUpO1qIpm6JIKIAHJ0oB8YA33br9Khd2MUkrop9Vw07zazR7tTJg23g kahP/zzCjGWLh04Pxk8685q3EJqEcddsTpdkCnOUD+kQfSDfGAyUNlePyMS0XZTc 8FZS0BXKPpVxkZy/Yq64oXBbs32st2zYlQK2VufrdXU+OauzA7vyLHAEUWV+/Rt2 kJMtnyi91cb/ZyBSE2/pyAiIxKVjoWYJMKKMBFO0LQ6NsSnnJ6aDuw5AqOxBQY6O ATYAt2waljPJUJBxTsoz1HYsjzn+0qO6m0Y1IAGPqXUQ20AGqLAiQ6fBzlSAu21K bjZX79Zb7v1CV2Ydxxxp =Xpo7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fRikBOwAkQH0hj8uA8JlmxWh3Se3ltQWE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 26 05:39:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E2FE2FBC3 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 05:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C92587765E for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 05:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v8Q5cx2p067567 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 07:39:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v8Q5cxPI067564 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 07:38:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 07:38:59 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: pkg: sqlite: database disk image is malformed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 05:39:10 -0000 On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:53+0200, Trond Endrestøl wrote: > On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 12:17+0200, Trond Endrestøl wrote: > > > I have an identical system next to this little bugger, so I could > > steal /var/db/local.sqlite from that system ... > > Problem solved using local.sqlite from the identical system. > > Corrupted local.sqlite is available on request if anyone is willing to > debug it. One followup question: How can we detect corruption asap? It's not done by the periodic scripts, afaIk. -- Trond. 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[image: beacon] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 26 15:32:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2911E0EA01 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A15006A85C for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69756228D for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:23:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jcEw58NAT9RI for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 283556225D for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:23:35 -0400 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:23:35 -0400 Subject: USB flash memory keys on FreeBSD-11 From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:32:08 -0000 I seem to have lost the ability to automatically mount usb flash memory sticks on my desktop. When I place a stick into a usb port the usb drive shows up in the Nautilus viewer and the following is logged in /var/log/messages: Sep 26 10:04:14 vhost04 kernel: ugen3.2: at usbus3 Sep 26 10:04:14 vhost04 kernel: umass0: on usbus3 Sep 26 10:04:14 vhost04 kernel: umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x8100 Sep 26 10:04:14 vhost04 kernel: umass0:5:0: Attached to scbus5 Sep 26 10:04:14 vhost04 kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus5 target 0 lun 0 Sep 26 10:04:14 vhost04 kernel: da0: Removable Direct Access SPC-2 SCSI device Sep 26 10:04:14 vhost04 kernel: da0: Serial Number 50E549C20210BF10A9BC4174 Sep 26 10:04:14 vhost04 kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers Sep 26 10:04:14 vhost04 kernel: da0: 60017MB (122915328 512 byte sectors) Sep 26 10:04:14 vhost04 kernel: da0: quirks=0x3 This is what dmesg shows: ugen3.2: at usbus3 umass0: on usbus3 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x8100 umass0:5:0: Attached to scbus5 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus5 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SPC-2 SCSI device da0: Serial Number 50E549C20210BF10A9BC4174 da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 60017MB (122915328 512 byte sectors) da0: quirks=0x3 But /media is empty: # ls -al /media total 9 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2 Sep 22 12:13 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root wheel 24 Sep 23 08:41 .. Attempts to mount the drive from the nautilus window of my non-privileged user account fail. I can however mount the drive manually and Nautilus then sees the contents: # mkdir /media/usbkey # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /media/usbkey # ll /media/usbkey/ total 112 drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Jun 17 2016 .Spotlight-V100/ drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Jun 17 2016 .Trashes/ -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Jun 17 2016 ._.Trashes* drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Jun 17 2016 .fseventsd/ drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Mar 23 2017 System Volume Information/ drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Jul 5 08:24 vhost04/ drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16384 Jul 5 08:23 xnet241/ How do I get the former 'auto detect and mount' function to work again? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 26 18:04:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C19E1269B for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 18:04:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C3806FAE0 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 18:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 20:03:10 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-92.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F5453CBF9; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 20:03:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8QI38t4002034; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 20:03:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 20:03:08 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , "freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB Device self-umount Message-Id: <20170926200308.5a9fb785.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with 17146683678 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1407 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 18:04:06 -0000 On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 16:30:48 +0200, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > The question is how to gracefully self-umount from a device point of > view in a way not to confuse automounter and/or usb / mass storage > drivers? Is there any way of doing that in SCSI+USB? Something like > CD-ROM eject, then device removal.. This is a _very_ good question of high relevance which hasn't been solved across many operating systems. :-) Basically, a normal (clean) unmount can only be initiated by the OS. You can program the controller (on the USB device) to disconnect on its own, but that doesn't cause the OS to call unmount(), it just makes the device disappear. One thing I could imagine is the use of SCSI status messages and a modified (!) storage access driver in the OS which could act upon a specific status code with a call to unmount(), but that is, as far as I know, not implemented yet anywhere. The primary problem with disconnecting is that it happens _before_ the unmount() call, and keep in mind that unmounting also requires some time. The OS can issue a certain direct access action, but it's up to the device to perform that action. Until it has successfully been performed, the device may not be deconnected. Timing is hard. :-) For CD-ROM, or optical media in general, it's not a problem because it's read-only. The CAM EJECT command - again issued by the OS, not by the device -, when performed _before_ unmount, leaves the OS in a problematic state: Something is still mounted, but it doesn't exist anymore. Okay, umount -f, no damage done. But with read-write media such as USB direct access storage... well... that looks much more complicated. That's why you alway unmount first, then wait, then disconnect. Sorry I couldn't provide more helpful suggestions... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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The java program compiles, but when I try to run it to generate a true picture of soccer ball it gives the following: When I run java SoccerBall I get message: $ javac SoccerBall.java $ java SoccerBall Error: Main method not found in class SoccerBall, please define the main method as: public static void main(String[] args) or a JavaFX application class must extend javafx.application.Application $ Any ideas how to get plain java (openjdk to generate the soccerball)? 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I am at the moment at point where I sniff out the USB traffic and analyze SCSI packets.. and also I got into SCSI specification to search for some possibilities.. :-) I will have to see how Windoze handles ATAPI EJECT, maybe that could bring some insight on how to umount ejectable media triggered by the device-eject-button-press.. As for now the device reports CHECK-CONDITION to mark media missing, then reboots and re-appeares, but that causes "device not cleanly unmounted" warnings on macOS for instance.. Will report back when I find anything interesting :-) Best regards! :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 26 21:02:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDC7E2171C for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:02:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01C607616F for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:02:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:01:31 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-92.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F1AA3CC42; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:01:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8QL1TBp002712; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:01:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:01:29 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , "freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB Device self-umount Message-Id: <20170926230129.7b00d9a7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20170926200308.5a9fb785.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with 88B456A3827 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1473 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:02:05 -0000 On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 22:52:28 +0200, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > I will have to see how Windoze handles ATAPI EJECT, maybe that could > bring some insight on how to umount ejectable media triggered by the > device-eject-button-press.. Hmmm... I don't think this is what happens. ATAPI EJECT is issued by the OS (ATAPI device driver) and the device simply ejects. If this action is "prefixed" with an unmount() call and a certain delay, everything is well. This is how a typical GUI file manager on Linux or FreeBSD works. But pressing the device's eject button will simply eject the media. Subsequent TUR inquiries by the OS will result in "device not ready", and that may cause the umount() call, but _after_ the device has been removed. > As for now the device reports CHECK-CONDITION to mark media missing, > then reboots and re-appeares, but that causes "device not cleanly > unmounted" warnings on macOS for instance.. Of course it does. :-) With filesystems mounted read-only, this typically isn't a problem, but those with read-write access might be left in an inconsistent state, and depending on the OS, cannot be mounted again (or require a run of fsck, or in case of "Windows", a kind of "repair" that often leads to data loss and corrupted files). Examining the USB traffic and checking for the CAM packets exchanged between the device and the OS could help you find a way to implement the impossible. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 26 21:05:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D78E219EC for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7659A765BF for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593936225D for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:05:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YT38rNX9n9of for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3251462290 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:05:00 -0400 Message-ID: <674aa8d7c7c74263bb11c00e5ab41279.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:05:00 -0400 Subject: Rsync woes From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:05:05 -0000 When transferring files via rsync I am receiving many, many errors of the following form: rsync: chown "/media/usbkey/vhost04/byrnejb_hll/Documents/HLL/Forwarding/DGR_Shipments/HLL_TDG_Air_2014_Blue_Form.ott" failed: Invalid argument (22) The rsync command used is: rsync -acsvxHAX --append-verify --exclude '\.*' --exclude 'tmp' --exclude 'javahotpot' --exclude 'lost+found' --progress /home/byrnejb_hll /media/usbkey/vhost04 What is causing the errors? I am also encountering another problem with the same transfer in that rsync apparently just stops transferring and I must use C to exit the program and restart it to continue the transfer. What causes this? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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Byrne via freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: Rsync woes Message-Id: <20170926231045.6253e3d9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <674aa8d7c7c74263bb11c00e5ab41279.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <674aa8d7c7c74263bb11c00e5ab41279.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with BA89A6834B4 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1371 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:11:04 -0000 On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:05:00 -0400, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > When transferring files via rsync I am receiving many, many errors of > the following form: > > rsync: chown > "/media/usbkey/vhost04/byrnejb_hll/Documents/HLL/Forwarding/DGR_Shipments/HLL_TDG_Air_2014_Blue_Form.ott" > failed: Invalid argument (22) > > > The rsync command used is: > > rsync -acsvxHAX --append-verify --exclude '\.*' --exclude 'tmp' > --exclude 'javahotpot' --exclude 'lost+found' --progress > /home/byrnejb_hll /media/usbkey/vhost04 > > What is causing the errors? Just to rule out the obvious: With which file system has the USB key been initialized? Are the access permissions set accordingly? As you can see from the error message, the file in question cannot be chown'ed. You could try this manually (with one file) to verify. > I am also encountering another problem with the same transfer in that > rsync apparently just stops transferring and I must use C to > exit the program and restart it to continue the transfer. What causes > this? Monitor the program with top / htop when this happens. Is the rsync program waiting for an I/O resource to become available? Has it been suspended? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 27 13:11:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9C1E037C5; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:11:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from burlywood.maple.relay.mailchannels.net (burlywood.maple.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.214.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3764671F6E; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) X-Sender-Id: hostmach|x-authuser|mlobo@digiart.art.br Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62050127EA9; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from logan.hmnoc.net (unknown [100.96.147.85]) (Authenticated sender: hostmach) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C130E127D15; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:04:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: hostmach|x-authuser|mlobo@digiart.art.br Received: from logan.hmnoc.net (logan.hmnoc.net [100.96.147.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.9.14); Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:04:49 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: hostmach|x-authuser|mlobo@digiart.art.br X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: hostmach X-Army-Obese: 4579a14b32d0c674_1506517489231_3162370249 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1506517489231:1720677985 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1506517489230 Received: from [187.113.116.71] (port=65170 helo=Papi.lobos) by logan.hmnoc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dxC18-002CZP-My; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 10:04:47 -0300 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 10:06:35 -0300 From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: mount_smbfs question (re-post) Message-ID: <20170927100635.7b56f8fd@Papi.lobos> Organization: DigiArt X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AuthUser: mlobo@digiart.art.br X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:11:33 -0000 Please forgive my repost. I've searching for an answer to this for quite a while and the only 2 most recent links I found on the subject were: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/61374/ https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/61422/ and they both say basically this: "mount_smbfs only supports SMBv1 which may be disabled on your sharing machines due to the WannaCry outbreak. There are no definite plans to add support for SMBv2 or SMBv3 to mount_smbfs." and "I cannot turn on SMBv1 for the handful of systems because the OS hasn't updated to work with something that has been out for over 10 years. While NFS might be an easier route in the "now", it is the principle of the matter. Who knows what other common features in the future will just get left behind because they aren't updated for integration. I do get that BSD is community ran and funded. SMBv1 has been around since 1990 and SMBv2 came out 11 years ago in 2006. Linux has moved ahead and kept up with their security. It makes me sad that BSD hasn't made any movement to keep up with SMB security versions" Since my environment is tottaly surrounded with shares that no longer accept SMBv1 (Windows, Linux AND FreeBSD servers), so basically in the end, what I'm really looking for is a confirmation that I'll just have to dump all Freebsd samba clients because the OS can't deal with SMBv2 or above. Thanks, -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] "UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things." 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owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 27 19:58:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F77E0E048 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 19:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from g5.umpquanet.com (g5.umpquanet.com [98.158.10.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "g5.umpquanet.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9615384CBE for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 19:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from g5.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by g5.umpquanet.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v8RJwTV0077689 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 12:58:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by g5.umpquanet.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v8RJwS2W077688 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 12:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) X-Authentication-Warning: g5.umpquanet.com: james set sender to list@museum.rain.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 12:58:28 -0700 From: list@museum.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Possible bug in tail(1) Message-ID: <20170927195828.GA77592@g5.umpquanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 19:58:40 -0000 Is it reasonable to expect that tail -r is reversable? That is, should: tail -r foo | tail -r produce the same output as: cat foo for all text files foo? The script below creates a file foo for which the above does not hold. This seems to be a somewhat recent bug. This vintage of 10.2 passes, as do all ancient versions I can lay hands on (4.8, 9.3): FreeBSD hostname.example.org 10.2-STABLE FreeBSD 10.2-STABLE #1 r290210: Fri Oct 30 16:36:14 PDT 2015 root@hostname.example.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 This 10.3 fails: FreeBSD hostname.example.org 10.3-STABLE FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE #0 r318965: Fri May 26 13:47:47 PDT 2017 root@hostname.example.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 This 11.1 also fails: FreeBSD hostname.example.org 11.1-STABLE FreeBSD 11.1-STABLE #0 r321596: Wed Jul 26 18:21:47 PDT 2017 root@hostname.example.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Thank you for looking into this. Apologies in advance for any unreasonable expectations on my part. Regards, Jim #!/usr/bin/env bash cat << EOF > foo 1 2 3 EOF echo "--" cat foo echo "--" tail -r foo echo "--" tail -r foo | tail -r echo "--" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 27 20:45:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C6CE0ECE9 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:45:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from g5.umpquanet.com (g5.umpquanet.com [98.158.10.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "g5.umpquanet.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36A1512BF for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from g5.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by g5.umpquanet.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v8RKjQSe078700 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:45:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by g5.umpquanet.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v8RKjQiP078699 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:45:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) X-Authentication-Warning: g5.umpquanet.com: james set sender to list@museum.rain.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:45:26 -0700 From: list@museum.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible bug in tail(1) Message-ID: <20170927204526.GA78573@g5.umpquanet.com> References: <20170927195828.GA77592@g5.umpquanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170927195828.GA77592@g5.umpquanet.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:45:28 -0000 On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:58:28PM -0700, list@museum.rain.com wrote: > #!/usr/bin/env bash > > cat << EOF > foo > 1 > 2 > 3 > > EOF > > echo "--" > cat foo > echo "--" > tail -r foo > echo "--" > tail -r foo | tail -r > echo "--" Here is a simpler test case: $ printf '\n1\n' | tail -r From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 27 21:00:48 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8426E0F21C for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from yavin.vindaloo.com (yavin.vindaloo.com [173.199.117.73]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "yavin.vindaloo.com", Issuer "Vindaloo Sign CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A613A19A8 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from anza.vindaloo.com (ool-45714982.dyn.optonline.net [69.113.73.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.vindaloo.com", Issuer "Vindaloo Sign CA" (verified OK)) by yavin.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07E6CD7B7F for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 17:00:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from csh-desktop-vm00.loopone.com (h4.82.141.40.ip.windstream.net [40.141.82.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by anza.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8FEED10212; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 17:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 17:00:44 -0400 From: Christopher Sean Hilton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bind9 + TCP_FASTOPEN => no rndc Message-ID: <20170927210044.a5mnjpv2izn5wln2@csh-desktop-vm00.loopone.com> References: <20170927173525.bspia3tpcu35yng3@kessel.vindaloo.com> <20170927175131.GE1165@albert.catwhisker.org> <20170927200033.pqwweoncqm4k627d@csh-desktop-vm00.loopone.com> <20170927201720.GL1165@albert.catwhisker.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170927201720.GL1165@albert.catwhisker.org> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170914 (1.9.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:00:48 -0000 On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 08:17:20PM +0000, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 04:00:49PM -0400, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: ... > OK; I wasn't aware of bind911; looks as if that might be a shinier > version of BIND 9: > > g1-252(11.1-S)[1] cd /usr/ports > g1-252(11.1-S)[2] ls -Fd */bind* > distfiles/bind-9.9.6.tar.gz dns/bind911/ > distfiles/bind-9.9.7.tar.gz dns/bind99/ > dns/bind-tools/ dns/bindgraph/ > dns/bind9-devel/ net/bindtest/ > dns/bind910/ > g1-252(11.1-S)[3] svn info --show-item last-changed-revision > 450729 > g1-252(11.1-S)[4] > > So I'm running 9.9: > Yeah, that's a good option right now. > > You may want to take a look at Hiren's response to your query... > and/or consider running dns/bind99 (which appears to be an "Extended > Support Version"). I did look at his answer. I'm still at work so right now I'm basically looking at my options. I actually don't need anything that's provided by bind-9.11 so 9.10 or 9.9 is probably the right way to go. -- Chris -- Chris __o "All I was trying to do was get home from work." _`\<,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*)____.___o____..___..o...________ooO..._____________________ Christopher Sean Hilton [chris/at/vindaloo/dot/com] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 27 21:32:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18F5E0FD32 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A43582DE8 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [2.247.255.221] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dxIwL-0007Ky-7N; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 22:28:17 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id v8RKSDBd002860 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Sep 2017 22:28:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id v8RKSBS1002859; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 22:28:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 22:28:11 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: list@museum.rain.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible bug in tail(1) Message-ID: <20170927202811.GA2799@c720-r314251> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , list@museum.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20170927195828.GA77592@g5.umpquanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170927195828.GA77592@g5.umpquanet.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.0 (2017-02-23) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 2.247.255.221 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:32:11 -0000 --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El d=C3=ADa mi=C3=A9rcoles, septiembre 27, 2017 a las 12:58:28p. m. -0700, = list@museum.rain.com escribi=C3=B3: > Is it reasonable to expect that tail -r is reversable? That is, should: >=20 > tail -r foo | tail -r >=20 > produce the same output as: >=20 > cat foo >=20 > for all text files foo? >=20 > The script below creates a file foo for which the above does not > hold. The essence of the issue seems to be if tail(1) is reading a file/stdin or a pipe: $ cat foor 3 2 1 $ tail -r foor 1 2 3 $ tail -r < foor 1 2 3 $ cat foor | tail -r 1 2 3 --=20 Matthias Apitz, =E2=9C=89 guru@unixarea.de, =E2=8C=82 http://www.unixarea.d= e/ =E2=98=8E +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub 8. Mai 1945: Wer nicht feiert hat den Krieg verloren. 8 de mayo de 1945: Quien no festeja perdi=C3=B3 la Guerra. 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Very Truly, Christine From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 27 22:20:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9E7E10D67 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 22:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from g5.umpquanet.com (g5.umpquanet.com [98.158.10.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "g5.umpquanet.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E5EF63579 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 22:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from g5.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by g5.umpquanet.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v8RMKHEq080764 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:20:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by g5.umpquanet.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v8RMKHnE080763 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:20:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) X-Authentication-Warning: g5.umpquanet.com: james set sender to list@museum.rain.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:20:17 -0700 From: list@museum.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible bug in tail(1) Message-ID: <20170927222017.GA80583@g5.umpquanet.com> References: <20170927195828.GA77592@g5.umpquanet.com> <20170927204526.GA78573@g5.umpquanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170927204526.GA78573@g5.umpquanet.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 22:20:19 -0000 I agree with Matthias that the issue arises when 'tail -r' is reading from a pipe. I looked at the GitHub mirror and downloaded a few src tarballs around recent commits to tail. Building tail from: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/tree/97a2ca501c7e9f07a80339a88fbb5a46977ae428 does not manifest the bug. However, tail built from: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/tree/2fef72832029bcc228a527dd9c423ba34a7490e9 does. IANAE, but it appears the bug may have crept in during: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D9067 HTH, Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 28 03:59:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875B4E274A7 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 03:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 3r3PMWRQJAJwDKKRANIEJEIQIVTeZXeXCI6EH.8KI@trix.bounces.google.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x245.google.com (mail-oi0-x245.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::245]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 518516DFBF for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 03:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 3r3PMWRQJAJwDKKRANIEJEIQIVTeZXeXCI6EH.8KI@trix.bounces.google.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x245.google.com with SMTP id p187so142796oif.18 for ; 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Thu, 28 Sep 2017 07:21:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 07:21:46 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible bug in tail(1) Message-ID: <20170928052146.GA2196@c720-r314251> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20170927195828.GA77592@g5.umpquanet.com> <20170927204526.GA78573@g5.umpquanet.com> <20170927222017.GA80583@g5.umpquanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20170927222017.GA80583@g5.umpquanet.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.0 (2017-02-23) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 2.247.251.51 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 05:21:55 -0000 El día miércoles, septiembre 27, 2017 a las 03:20:17p. m. -0700, list@museum.rain.com escribió: > I agree with Matthias that the issue arises when 'tail -r' is reading > from a pipe. > > I looked at the GitHub mirror and downloaded a few src tarballs around > recent commits to tail. > > Building tail from: > > https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/tree/97a2ca501c7e9f07a80339a88fbb5a46977ae428 > > does not manifest the bug. > > However, tail built from: > > https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/tree/2fef72832029bcc228a527dd9c423ba34a7490e9 > > does. IANAE, but it appears the bug may have crept in during: > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D9067 One should file a bug PR. I have the issue on FreeBSD c720-r314251 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #1 r314251M: Fri Jun 30 08:50:03 CEST 2017 guru@c720-r314251:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 which is CURRENT from Februar, 25 of this year. -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub 8. Mai 1945: Wer nicht feiert hat den Krieg verloren. 8 de mayo de 1945: Quien no festeja perdió la Guerra. May 8, 1945: Who does not celebrate lost the War. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 28 08:27:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8B2E2C6DB for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 08:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@erwanlegrand.com) Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (relay2-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D4E97511F for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 08:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@erwanlegrand.com) X-Originating-IP: 209.85.192.173 Received: from mail-pf0-f173.google.com (mail-pf0-f173.google.com [209.85.192.173]) (Authenticated sender: moi@erwan.legrand.name) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7CE7BC5A60 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:26:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-pf0-f173.google.com with SMTP id r71so502629pfe.12 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 01:26:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjLyPmoOfalTzi70KKQ7pAp+X3FQOjkzjIk5Mt/nKHMwGcqcv14 UGSGzx320TTMXsGeKGk0iwZkiilkBXlXK4+a91c= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QCOSFl8uswo21TyZHitbRQCatnL+PxO8gzTfoDj18MdflfI1YV1DqkPFIzfJZ7Jr6rE+WS+UJmLlUN5Ie0qEsI= X-Received: by 10.99.63.14 with SMTP id m14mr358387pga.236.1506587215809; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 01:26:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.163.3 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 01:26:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20170927202811.GA2799@c720-r314251> References: <20170927195828.GA77592@g5.umpquanet.com> <20170927202811.GA2799@c720-r314251> From: Erwan Legrand Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:26:55 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Possible bug in tail(1) To: Matthias Apitz , list@museum.rain.com, FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 08:27:05 -0000 On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:28 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > The essence of the issue seems to be if tail(1) is reading a file/stdin > or a pipe: > > $ cat foor > > 3 > 2 > 1 > $ tail -r foor > 1 > 2 > 3 > > $ tail -r < foor > 1 > 2 > 3 > > $ cat foor | tail -r > 1 > 2 > > 3 This works for me with 11.0-RELEASE-p12: [erwan@melkor /tmp]% cat foor 3 2 1 [erwan@melkor /tmp]% tail -r foor 1 2 3 [erwan@melkor /tmp]% cat foor | tail -r 1 2 3 [erwan@melkor /tmp]% type tail tail is /usr/bin/tail But then, I use zsh, not bash. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 28 12:26:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FBDEE31494 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 12:26:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2327481B5D for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 12:26:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id v8SCQ4Oq043558 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:26:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: Openoffice From: Bernt Hansson To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: Message-ID: <48b88b21-9874-75f3-c03e-c5bae24b7757@bananmonarki.se> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:26:04 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 12:26:19 -0000 On 09/24/17 15:15, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello list! > > Trying to build Openoffice but it stops at this point. > > [ build DEP ] LNK:Library/ucpgio1.uno.so > R=/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0 && S=$R/main && > O=$S/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro && W=$O/workdir && mkdir -p > $W/Dep/LinkTarget/Library/ && RESPONSEFILE=/tmp/gbuild..IqhvmDJ4 && > cat ${RESPONSEFILE} /dev/null | xargs -n 200 cat > > $W/Dep/LinkTarget/Library/ucpgio1.uno.so.d && rm -f ${RESPONSEFILE} > touch > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_provider.d > touch > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_content.d > touch > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_resultset.d > touch > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_datasupplier.d > touch > /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_seekable.d > > Waited for 5-6 hours for it to contiune, but no. After running make LOCALIZED_LANG=sv for 96 hours. The conclusion is that openoffice-devel is borked and do not build. Please mark this port as broken. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 28 12:59:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FE2E31BCB for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 12:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x232.google.com (mail-it0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BCF282955 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 12:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x232.google.com with SMTP id 85so1197471ith.2 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 05:59:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=KeItVGatVJarjhFkLYGMr4LwTNYJIUwsvcxuM11D7EE=; b=TfQEkrAka6Gv9Il5TMBMzXM0osDAOZ9aOdTKBd5BR3+Df1DjMIyIaQZ670iJFuayV4 SB6pGnPwqgsxiblVl23hoGxCB/K8jxDOzleX9DT7sL+wWcrFMLsoVS38wOLJ/eneaSk4 h+DQ+CihRmcXZKwenrKwDs5e4CczFXEZy7axIl8afLCPB4eM9s4UpAH1LYyM9avgTV+f 3BUQb6WhU/3sgIHDcGd4OS0zoF3BwYZzlmiz01nIWskE25epGa4P4AdR4sdQjgQQOZFg YaX7FsyjLbdBLdc+QpilRj36419/PBdWXf9/K1xVtmAVWUZS3VJQXovx2ZmyDgnCioOm EgBw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KeItVGatVJarjhFkLYGMr4LwTNYJIUwsvcxuM11D7EE=; b=evA7yV8BpoVbf8+fIHZoVL5P13en7d/0FTDxBgptAyv4qCqZLp8mVBb1eRZ7GPVNN8 zOxAnp1CpvC+uyZBflAcKh+a76gOFuQ+SYMCV4rbSp2/khnl8pKjn5ChCT8endJeSIBb OTwBWWkKN+RWo3+DziudQ+ceGas5RZS/Ejq/3X1CHCVbT8HoWfibvqLKjZkVyXJTeWTx rmXMAFAryIvyqgjYGYVhcAHHpU29E2LcIvrhmOEYYhe8L7AT8fZb35v5bERZYQ+hF3N3 4zkDFsSb4Nkmjbz3s3WJ+tZwv7VzEjtm/SaxT6XCbAftoktmEWBL10bsd3hIcdgC5C9I E4fw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUh+3I/5YBSqM9HxWTOh68t66YqTeobKhvuzN6vS5tFUMwc20N7P ye8IjLdUZAe/azalL4U+deXd5RRQn/KNqLwWGpD4cQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QBL5bVlCdX70oKz5I4/H1uGVSPkzFUAOFuGGjUwCmU5Cx05VRveNsSkeDWzPegI7VTKo4HpllT8wZUQ8irP9Ps= X-Received: by 10.36.101.213 with SMTP id u204mr1356117itb.151.1506603565138; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 05:59:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.145.141 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 05:59:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <781c39a9-9bd4-4cf3-a4b8-5b47a4a6d044@bananmonarki.se> References: <20170925222852.GA93860@woodcruft.co.uk> <781c39a9-9bd4-4cf3-a4b8-5b47a4a6d044@bananmonarki.se> From: Adam Vande More Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 07:59:24 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Openoffice To: Bernt Hansson Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 12:59:26 -0000 On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 12:05 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 09/26/17 00:28, Frank Shute wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 03:15:35PM +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> >>> Hello list! >>> >>> Trying to build Openoffice but it stops at this point. >>> >>> [ build DEP ] LNK:Library/ucpgio1.uno.so >>> R=/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0 && S=$R/main && >>> O=$S/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro && W=$O/workdir && mkdir -p >>> $W/Dep/LinkTarget/Library/ && RESPONSEFILE=/tmp/gbuild..IqhvmDJ4 && cat >>> ${RESPONSEFILE} /dev/null | xargs -n 200 cat > >>> $W/Dep/LinkTarget/Library/ucpgio1.uno.so.d && rm -f ${RESPONSEFILE} >>> touch >>> /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/ >>> unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_provider.d >>> touch >>> /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/ >>> unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_content.d >>> touch >>> /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/ >>> unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_resultset.d >>> touch >>> /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/ >>> unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_datasupplier.d >>> touch >>> /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/ >>> unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/Dep/CxxObject/ucp/source/ucp/gio/gio_seekable.d >>> >>> Waited for 5-6 hours for it to contiune, but no. >>> >> I can't see any kind of error in that lot. >> >> A few questions come to mind though. Why not LibreOffice? >> > No support for lpd. > That was supposed fixed 3 years ago in 167441. Are you working off a different PR? The port would be marked broken if it was actually broken, not just in your use case. If you are that convinced that about it you should file a PR with step to repro on a clean system, not complain here. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 28 13:23:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FADE322DA for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 13:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from sh4-5.1blu.de (sh4-5.1blu.de [178.254.11.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0551F83679 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 13:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dxY5R-000283-6o for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:38:41 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:38:41 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Openoffice Message-ID: <20170928123841.GA5435@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48b88b21-9874-75f3-c03e-c5bae24b7757@bananmonarki.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <48b88b21-9874-75f3-c03e-c5bae24b7757@bananmonarki.se> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 13:23:35 -0000 El día Thursday, September 28, 2017 a las 02:26:04PM +0200, Bernt Hansson escribió: > After running make LOCALIZED_LANG=sv for 96 hours. > The conclusion is that openoffice-devel is borked and do not build. > > Please mark this port as broken. I have compiled with poudriere: apache-openoffice-devel-4.2.1780246,4.txz on amd64 CURRENT; I could check if I stell have the build log from poudriere for this port... matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-176-38902045 | / \ - Respect for open standards | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII_Ribbon_Campaign From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 28 14:16:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B383E32C71 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:16:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yw0-x231.google.com (mail-yw0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5072C8E for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: by mail-yw0-x231.google.com with SMTP id p10so1088001ywh.8 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 07:16:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsd.com.br; s=capeta; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=c8fN+0Vb3h2j5vJQ2foRjJes8Lxhn5I+6390nlBeM8M=; b=QagexafBT/N3roBBFuU3qJGhodg3SOLnuKFaGBDC6FeQpcFxjWGWB6B08wLuHi3qks ZjSrt/oNWpi+cyhaCBaFdqKSvWpJe9eBhxYEHEviXc8F46Nmrn8cTwr7qa8z59xIw3Zo vPsm3UMifNHvMeSbuUQ3bMpV7pXbNycSQdG1A= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=c8fN+0Vb3h2j5vJQ2foRjJes8Lxhn5I+6390nlBeM8M=; b=Kfmkq2jAv0h4SD2hwdEsLG4ZT+lRySFrBBbAPhvRJ4710bhhNZu5n8My8dCatZUSm4 Xm18BDCXzdfdH0gsnK+ZMLeQ2wFz4mHYwND8PAYc3GCWe/P/A/VXFr+rxLtdEpcj44OH pDq77SDZk8UxzfUsYPryp0JqQB2tUoQnqrFal6SPUdTmLLnTEcarfu9AzCL9KCGRusm2 9wHuY2WRCu5fZS1CnT36OIyTTj4dbEL+D8+qk2fDWk9/EO+/7Bh52WRE4qXeuhcNURKn +ZYfOU+QNGWl9DKjylsnhpNVD/tfdbfKzfyvF1oNCMn7SU7YEMojFFHX25Vo2Yce4S/V h8tA== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUiJDLQC5OZ4qu12Qxlvw4B4Xsx5cah3jPkDFcsNQzcXD7VGuFaA rbNKnMrB4hruiOLx8HUN040M8h14j9HRnwq2GU9ywqCW X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QCE6ka+PHNjlJYeydQ+AMGyw1+twMgw5o3P1zER1SmcoeNBS2xMl8ciYw/jjtP+UfkgOIjutf5kEmDVFcZnwIQ= X-Received: by 10.37.174.165 with SMTP id b37mr3528238ybj.375.1506608188245; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 07:16:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.170.193 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 07:16:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20170927100635.7b56f8fd@Papi.lobos> From: Mario Lobo Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 11:16:27 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mount_smbfs question (re-post) To: Erwan Legrand Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, FreeBSD questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:16:30 -0000 2017-09-27 11:20 GMT-03:00 Erwan Legrand : > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > > Since my environment is tottaly surrounded with shares that no longer > > accept SMBv1 (Windows, Linux AND FreeBSD servers), so basically in the > > end, what I'm really looking for is a confirmation that I'll just have > > to dump all Freebsd samba clients because the OS can't deal with SMBv2 > > or above. > > Perhaps have a look at implementations of SMB on top of FUSE? > http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category= > sysutils&portname=fusefs-smbnetfs > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I did. Same problem. smbnetfs only works with SMBv1 -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winfoes FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 28 17:08:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF65E0402E; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 17:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@erwanlegrand.com) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [IPv6:2001:4b98:c:538::195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDD316651B; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 17:08:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@erwanlegrand.com) X-Originating-IP: 74.125.83.41 Received: from mail-pg0-f41.google.com (mail-pg0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) (Authenticated sender: moi@erwan.legrand.name) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A60D7A80DB; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:08:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-pg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id b11so1268630pgn.12; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:08:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjvVnO0s+OJYw0A6kUMbTuvp/cjtdPU11PWNsT6AyVew+4bIW+b pTcmiYiZkU9h9jXE3H/5iHuKUBDshyhqZC1Vkvg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QCnYJDA9kDGiyHZ+Q9iwWzuHDtyehwaQxbHPGueureLjh8Qq4xJwTpA5SsqQ1rR/n05J4bhAFw8ukd25EyfebI= X-Received: by 10.159.244.9 with SMTP id x9mr4499848plr.34.1506618485129; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:08:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.163.3 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:08:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20170927100635.7b56f8fd@Papi.lobos> From: Erwan Legrand Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:08:04 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: mount_smbfs question (re-post) To: Mario Lobo Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, FreeBSD questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 17:08:15 -0000 On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > 2017-09-27 11:20 GMT-03:00 Erwan Legrand : >> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: >> > Since my environment is tottaly surrounded with shares that no longer >> > accept SMBv1 (Windows, Linux AND FreeBSD servers), so basically in the >> > end, what I'm really looking for is a confirmation that I'll just have >> > to dump all Freebsd samba clients because the OS can't deal with SMBv2 >> > or above. >> >> Perhaps have a look at implementations of SMB on top of FUSE? >> >> http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=sysutils&portname=fusefs-smbnetfs > > I did. Same problem. > smbnetfs only works with SMBv1 > It is based on libsmbclient, thus it should support SMB2 if smb.conf allows it. According to the following thread, the client protocol is resticted to SMB1 by default: https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2016-November/thread.html#116999 This might be fixed by setting "client max protocol = SMB2" in smb.conf. ($HOME/.smb/smb.conf in this case?) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 28 17:48:42 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78EECE04DCA for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 17:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39DF4677D5 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 17:48:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [2.247.253.226] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dxcvO-0000RR-B1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:48:38 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id v8SHmbNu002430 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:48:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id v8SHmbSm002429 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:48:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:48:37 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Openoffice Message-ID: <20170928174836.GA2360@c720-r314251> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48b88b21-9874-75f3-c03e-c5bae24b7757@bananmonarki.se> <20170928123841.GA5435@sh4-5.1blu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170928123841.GA5435@sh4-5.1blu.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.0 (2017-02-23) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 2.247.253.226 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 17:48:42 -0000 --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El d=C3=ADa jueves, septiembre 28, 2017 a las 02:38:41p. m. +0200, Matthias= Apitz escribi=C3=B3: > I have compiled with poudriere: >=20 > apache-openoffice-devel-4.2.1780246,4.txz >=20 > on amd64 CURRENT; I could check if I stell have the build log from > poudriere for this port... I have checked my notes about this and it reads: editors/openoffice-devel #^---- Dell PowerEdge 2h, 8 CPU, swap 11 GB RAM The server has around 16 GByte memory and it took 2 hours. matthias --=20 Matthias Apitz, =E2=9C=89 guru@unixarea.de, =E2=8C=82 http://www.unixarea.d= e/ =E2=98=8E +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEXmn7rBYYViyzy/vBR8z35Hb+nREFAlnNNe0ACgkQR8z35Hb+ nRGr/w//eLzhDBUSaVs62cYbSPY6imlwrLV+8B/HV1e4J6PgufUlV/9wjL/QQqFx K5Nb2KI24zKijR1vD6fpARGDD1w9lDdeIOCYka0ChlVagziffKDf22FPXvfkpu10 PBn7m23Rz6e/Db+Pb8q+X2XXdNJZWxv2DtuoXlR2FXs9yJ8IY02E+go6WEq3q3DA 05G8Szf1tsBjP88SkXF+UD69PEcoqeI7JtmwJmTi4KpzOzD8gvW+TlwZ0ML7DDvT 3zOH+R1aMfXkADxnwr0mVx9I31HbHmYZufIpzbwSVeXC7neICZoRNmypqwWnusZJ ZMqVGvMrJbsg0fL57uokDdULnddtDkc1ZXJLyw3cfqSa7TpaWcXlBO1kV3TEI/cg hLDI0J4VpOpXTnVWv6m9E2kEQ1+jOSSnEzyuN3xeI0bxYa/sy4WDV6t2fVyvnrEO sllCBBvOFYgDzIqshfy18CoHXT+RPhqIV/l0VWsy7MAorbcNXHKApeUTprzojteH dSm42O2p1mMDKaJzJIcACT12qk7D7tC5eah3lTHDhMm9aFGiij88NotMuX2bJJ1C pHSNXIvEZ/vglTXDTyuMEz59C9yW9p/EcPTtX/H1AQGkwx0J0Vshyb5zRiLKeS7u G/VZI+8bBCO18jcINxRrvG5Yc60etcH/hg+3VCZsRN9i6gZv0U0= =IQVS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 28 20:36:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896C8E08B3D; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Received: from smarthost1.greenhost.nl (smarthost1.greenhost.nl [195.190.28.92]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 501256D5BD; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Received: from smtp.greenhost.nl ([213.108.104.138]) by smarthost1.greenhost.nl with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dxfIc-0001I0-OH; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 22:20:47 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Mario Lobo" , "Erwan Legrand" Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, "FreeBSD questions" Subject: Re: mount_smbfs question (re-post) References: <20170927100635.7b56f8fd@Papi.lobos> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 22:20:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ronald Klop" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-Authenticated-As-Hash: bdb49c4ff80bd276e321aade33e76e02752072e2 X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.samage.net X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Score: -0.2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.4.0 X-Scan-Signature: 1fac81774939798d1cdb19633eb460de X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:36:14 -0000 On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:08:04 +0200, Erwan Legrand wrote: > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: >> 2017-09-27 11:20 GMT-03:00 Erwan Legrand : >>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Mario Lobo >>> wrote: >>> > Since my environment is tottaly surrounded with shares that no longer >>> > accept SMBv1 (Windows, Linux AND FreeBSD servers), so basically in >>> the >>> > end, what I'm really looking for is a confirmation that I'll just >>> have >>> > to dump all Freebsd samba clients because the OS can't deal with >>> SMBv2 >>> > or above. >>> >>> Perhaps have a look at implementations of SMB on top of FUSE? >>> >>> http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=sysutils&portname=fusefs-smbnetfs >> >> I did. Same problem. >> smbnetfs only works with SMBv1 >> > > It is based on libsmbclient, thus it should support SMB2 if smb.conf > allows it. According to the following thread, the client protocol is > resticted to SMB1 by default: > > https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2016-November/thread.html#116999 > > This might be fixed by setting "client max protocol = SMB2" in > smb.conf. ($HOME/.smb/smb.conf in this case?) I'd suggest setting "client min protocol". ^^^ Regards, Ronald. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-fs@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-fs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-fs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 28 20:48:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73523E08FF8 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yw0-x22c.google.com (mail-yw0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 270DB6DC44 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: by mail-yw0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id w9so1899172ywi.11 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 13:48:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsd.com.br; s=capeta; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=+EDRrX1mF+pi8f5p0o6Xc33geh5M5oc5RA3njIuJhkU=; b=E/1C5PTqe8s3TmgVATaa2IJasOLKXTUT4WrTgC6X0GseLemRhaFSJRpHmteD8AdI4w nviAUivJTgiFohWWzYAnI4m113tB9ysIJ7luTO3SG55lTIRTycWZxnSxrSBtXva/yPQI Sp7ixEMsqlAWvJ87Uhi3rBLDFU/YuR6irseGg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+EDRrX1mF+pi8f5p0o6Xc33geh5M5oc5RA3njIuJhkU=; b=grR1p7sGAw78UOKo9X4goPw0b5SRfp649MgXZ/oFakHZcZyfj0oy5I/fvIy83yMcQa a/RZtFPk1QvpywjXBt38TDdLuI8ckx48JyChmV14GzYQGkrJ4ePtRG8tIkP/J5iuO/b9 MT6KL8wpRsgBbepIZp7Pr1yQ/73Ea+hQfXwUF23xKorOOngw8bZT1G3uRwlZ55KcmW4P n4CZ+IBJ4FhOeR/hfkzGnpyG5DcJ/3OjtBn0bfGSPWt0jTRPm+3tpqBruu12+ltdjE62 A0ZCb9RHiqzzdENKVAHSeN/NN5zIOPunwfnbyhQBA5v34QmOYsCLMYlhXHN6v4ZMHAhh PKsA== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgTcyLJbDDMF6Q0YsPAR8sZyNpDQmWw5XilZUrWrfbPw+W8vvOa z52a+1k2wR8tWUtsBoxppne3I1gfqISOGaHXON/R6jVP X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QCcCe02qg3auxz/M9AbeMwqj4e3Y8WRICWY7r//G04cmoHwmP4R3KSCKLn3cZVdqPskpq332xAn2pVRhaCaQFU= X-Received: by 10.129.109.151 with SMTP id i145mr4605218ywc.82.1506631704128; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 13:48:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.170.193 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 13:48:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20170927100635.7b56f8fd@Papi.lobos> From: Mario Lobo Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 17:48:23 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mount_smbfs question (re-post) To: Ronald Klop Cc: Erwan Legrand , freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, FreeBSD questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:48:25 -0000 2017-09-28 17:20 GMT-03:00 Ronald Klop : > On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:08:04 +0200, Erwan Legrand < > freebsd@erwanlegrand.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: >> >>> 2017-09-27 11:20 GMT-03:00 Erwan Legrand : >>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Mario Lobo >>>> wrote: >>>> > Since my environment is tottaly surrounded with shares that no longer >>>> > accept SMBv1 (Windows, Linux AND FreeBSD servers), so basically in the >>>> > end, what I'm really looking for is a confirmation that I'll just have >>>> > to dump all Freebsd samba clients because the OS can't deal with SMBv2 >>>> > or above. >>>> >>>> Perhaps have a look at implementations of SMB on top of FUSE? >>>> >>>> http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=sysutil >>>> s&portname=fusefs-smbnetfs >>>> >>> >>> I did. Same problem. >>> smbnetfs only works with SMBv1 >>> >>> >> It is based on libsmbclient, thus it should support SMB2 if smb.conf >> allows it. According to the following thread, the client protocol is >> resticted to SMB1 by default: >> >> https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2016-Novembe >> r/thread.html#116999 >> >> This might be fixed by setting "client max protocol = SMB2" in >> smb.conf. ($HOME/.smb/smb.conf in this case?) >> > > I'd suggest setting "client min protocol". > ^^^ > > Regards, > Ronald. > > > _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-fs@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-fs >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-fs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > I just tested it! 2 shares. 1 with SMBv1 and 1 with client min protocol=SMBv2 They are both SAMBA with FREEBSD. The first I can read/write anywhere in it The second I can't even see whats in it. These are the msgs from running smbnetfs -d /shares when accessing the SMBv1 share (OK): unique: 1178, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 readlink /SEAWAY/NEWSITE 1025 unique: 1178, success, outsize: 26 unique: 1179, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr / unique: 1179, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1180, opcode: LOOKUP (1), nodeid: 12, insize: 51, pid: 36429 LOOKUP /NEWSITE/.directory getattr /NEWSITE/.directory unique: 1180, error: -2 (No such file or directory), outsize: 16 unique: 1181, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 readlink /SEAWAY/NEWSITE 1025 unique: 1181, success, outsize: 26 unique: 1182, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr / unique: 1182, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1183, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 readlink /SEAWAY/NEWSITE 1025 unique: 1183, success, outsize: 26 unique: 1184, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr / unique: 1184, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1185, opcode: LOOKUP (1), nodeid: 12, insize: 51, pid: 36429 LOOKUP /NEWSITE/.directory getattr /NEWSITE/.directory unique: 1185, error: -2 (No such file or directory), outsize: 16 unique: 1186, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr / unique: 1186, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1187, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 3, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr /SEAWAY unique: 1187, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1188, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr /SEAWAY/NEWSITE unique: 1188, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1189, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 readlink /SEAWAY/NEWSITE 1025 unique: 1189, success, outsize: 26 unique: 1190, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 readlink /SEAWAY/NEWSITE 1025 unique: 1190, success, outsize: 26 unique: 1191, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr / unique: 1191, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1192, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 12, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr /NEWSITE unique: 1192, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1193, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 3, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr /SEAWAY unique: 1193, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1194, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 12, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr /NEWSITE unique: 1194, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1195, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr /SEAWAY/NEWSITE unique: 1195, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1196, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 readlink /SEAWAY/NEWSITE 1025 when accessing the SMBv2 share (BAD): readlink /SEAWAY/SITE-DESIGN 1025 unique: 1157, success, outsize: 30 unique: 1158, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36446 getattr / unique: 1158, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1159, opcode: OPENDIR (27), nodeid: 18, insize: 48, pid: 36446 opendir flags: 0x0 /SITE-DESIGN unique: 1159, error: -5 (Input/output error), outsize: 16 2017-09-28 17:40:21.948 srv(39637)->smb_conn_srv_opendir: errno=22, Invalid argument unique: 1160, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 17, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr /SEAWAY/SITE-DESIGN unique: 1160, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1161, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 17, insize: 40, pid: 36429 readlink /SEAWAY/SITE-DESIGN 1025 unique: 1161, success, outsize: 30 unique: 1162, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr / unique: 1162, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1163, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 18, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr /SITE-DESIGN unique: 1163, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1164, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 17, insize: 40, pid: 36429 readlink /SEAWAY/SITE-DESIGN 1025 unique: 1164, success, outsize: 30 unique: 1165, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr / unique: 1165, success, outsize: 112 unique: 1166, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 17, insize: 40, pid: 36429 getattr /SEAWAY/SITE-DESIGN unique: 1166, success, outsize: 112 Unless I'm missing some tuning option in smbnetfs for SMBv2 and above, It doesen't work! Thanks, -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winfoes FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 28 21:39:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93D3E0CF98 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 21:39:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-qk0-x242.google.com (mail-qk0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76D416F20C for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 21:39:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: by mail-qk0-x242.google.com with SMTP id d70so1895659qkc.1 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:39:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsd.com.br; s=capeta; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YYTRXIuDeGWEXpdp2T83ELhnAPVEcrgYZbOQyWlCC/k=; b=EMsu0AMFZsD4m+uyHZZDAXzwz8J8EFgz4sjUv4XztGe8PanoQFVKlt2OoUEJF3mUOa XldD+wZmMc260kW6Pbax5I0zinC7NGzDooXEBEKhFpI8GICRk4pHgG8H2eWif1xJABN6 Ud6xHpmCP+zQPlEYxtBOfSwtpza92k1NXl49I= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:organization:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YYTRXIuDeGWEXpdp2T83ELhnAPVEcrgYZbOQyWlCC/k=; b=VPihc7gPjVALYMnzLKGCp4vvpTzEAXF4VFG0d935uICZVT84LYl/0Pa7XwH3OOL/Zm FKObALPaSeE7vfMuIp8bWR7206VwZuQ7wWaWemAU5BlTA88P7IaN7+2f1OV1MEFZ6AsG +1lWArSgCVPCuts0qgvupXLlOPcoxndJtT3Vd5xXqZKRSdvEmefHot5WY/F7bz/zqk9B zobiVQC86mwsCBQHV41shZjC+RUv2pnkaWxXrHN3nKtJpRWmsz3V5SEsY+oeep62vK0+ wt532moEvtjCYmkkjDTYq5bgBOqfqbmtYv5/ASPrYfgvqPApcVvnIimOSQXlWPSjXMeh bkgA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaVGUb0NypFqcgs5OathdhGQNGjrgxD0OTtQ0gVLZUHO5GJOKnBZ BJ6lANehWtHGxHVM4ryJoy+Pkia2PFs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QBA52j7W29GpHUJPfvjSgxHbYbcg6p+ieyavurl/usnKzhNneKLSVruqj/Hf8yP8kywjVYOQQ== X-Received: by 10.55.104.132 with SMTP id d126mr523126qkc.142.1506634757667; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Papi.lobos ([187.59.113.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v32sm1700728qtc.66.2017.09.28.14.39.15 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:41:01 -0300 From: Mario Lobo To: Ronald Klop Cc: Erwan Legrand , freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: mount_smbfs question (re-post) Message-ID: <20170928184101.55c8a0ec@Papi.lobos> In-Reply-To: References: <20170927100635.7b56f8fd@Papi.lobos> Organization: BSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 21:39:19 -0000 On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 17:48:23 -0300 Mario Lobo wrote: > 2017-09-28 17:20 GMT-03:00 Ronald Klop : > > > On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:08:04 +0200, Erwan Legrand < > > freebsd@erwanlegrand.com> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Mario Lobo > > wrote: > >> > >>> 2017-09-27 11:20 GMT-03:00 Erwan Legrand > >>> : > >>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Mario Lobo > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > Since my environment is tottaly surrounded with shares that no > >>>> > longer accept SMBv1 (Windows, Linux AND FreeBSD servers), so > >>>> > basically in the end, what I'm really looking for is a > >>>> > confirmation that I'll just have to dump all Freebsd samba > >>>> > clients because the OS can't deal with SMBv2 or above. > >>>> > >>>> Perhaps have a look at implementations of SMB on top of FUSE? > >>>> > >>>> http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=sysutil > >>>> s&portname=fusefs-smbnetfs > >>>> > >>> > >>> I did. Same problem. > >>> smbnetfs only works with SMBv1 > >>> > >>> > >> It is based on libsmbclient, thus it should support SMB2 if > >> smb.conf allows it. According to the following thread, the client > >> protocol is resticted to SMB1 by default: > >> > >> https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2016-Novembe > >> r/thread.html#116999 > >> > >> This might be fixed by setting "client max protocol = SMB2" in > >> smb.conf. ($HOME/.smb/smb.conf in this case?) > >> > > > > I'd suggest setting "client min protocol". > > ^^^ > > > > Regards, > > Ronald. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-fs@freebsd.org mailing list > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-fs > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-fs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > I just tested it! > > 2 shares. 1 with SMBv1 and 1 with client min protocol=SMBv2 > They are both SAMBA with FREEBSD. > > The first I can read/write anywhere in it > The second I can't even see whats in it. > > These are the msgs from running smbnetfs -d /shares > > when accessing the SMBv1 share (OK): > > unique: 1178, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > readlink /SEAWAY/NEWSITE 1025 > unique: 1178, success, outsize: 26 > unique: 1179, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr / > unique: 1179, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1180, opcode: LOOKUP (1), nodeid: 12, insize: 51, pid: 36429 > LOOKUP /NEWSITE/.directory > getattr /NEWSITE/.directory > unique: 1180, error: -2 (No such file or directory), outsize: 16 > unique: 1181, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > readlink /SEAWAY/NEWSITE 1025 > unique: 1181, success, outsize: 26 > unique: 1182, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr / > unique: 1182, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1183, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > readlink /SEAWAY/NEWSITE 1025 > unique: 1183, success, outsize: 26 > unique: 1184, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr / > unique: 1184, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1185, opcode: LOOKUP (1), nodeid: 12, insize: 51, pid: 36429 > LOOKUP /NEWSITE/.directory > getattr /NEWSITE/.directory > unique: 1185, error: -2 (No such file or directory), outsize: 16 > unique: 1186, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr / > unique: 1186, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1187, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 3, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr /SEAWAY > unique: 1187, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1188, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr /SEAWAY/NEWSITE > unique: 1188, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1189, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > readlink /SEAWAY/NEWSITE 1025 > unique: 1189, success, outsize: 26 > unique: 1190, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > readlink /SEAWAY/NEWSITE 1025 > unique: 1190, success, outsize: 26 > unique: 1191, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr / > unique: 1191, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1192, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 12, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr /NEWSITE > unique: 1192, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1193, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 3, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr /SEAWAY > unique: 1193, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1194, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 12, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr /NEWSITE > unique: 1194, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1195, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr /SEAWAY/NEWSITE > unique: 1195, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1196, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 11, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > readlink /SEAWAY/NEWSITE 1025 > > > > when accessing the SMBv2 share (BAD): > > readlink /SEAWAY/SITE-DESIGN 1025 > unique: 1157, success, outsize: 30 > unique: 1158, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36446 > getattr / > unique: 1158, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1159, opcode: OPENDIR (27), nodeid: 18, insize: 48, pid: 36446 > opendir flags: 0x0 /SITE-DESIGN > unique: 1159, error: -5 (Input/output error), outsize: 16 > 2017-09-28 17:40:21.948 srv(39637)->smb_conn_srv_opendir: errno=22, > Invalid argument > unique: 1160, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 17, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr /SEAWAY/SITE-DESIGN > unique: 1160, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1161, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 17, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > readlink /SEAWAY/SITE-DESIGN 1025 > unique: 1161, success, outsize: 30 > unique: 1162, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr / > unique: 1162, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1163, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 18, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr /SITE-DESIGN > unique: 1163, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1164, opcode: READLINK (5), nodeid: 17, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > readlink /SEAWAY/SITE-DESIGN 1025 > unique: 1164, success, outsize: 30 > unique: 1165, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 1, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr / > unique: 1165, success, outsize: 112 > unique: 1166, opcode: GETATTR (3), nodeid: 17, insize: 40, pid: 36429 > getattr /SEAWAY/SITE-DESIGN > unique: 1166, success, outsize: 112 > > > Unless I'm missing some tuning option in smbnetfs for SMBv2 and above, > > It doesen't work! > > Thanks, > One more thing. If I gear down the second server to SMBv1, I can access it just fine. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] "UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 29 01:04:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDF6E10DB2 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 01:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 819AF74341 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 01:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id v8T14Wg6045490; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 03:04:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: Openoffice To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48b88b21-9874-75f3-c03e-c5bae24b7757@bananmonarki.se> <20170928123841.GA5435@sh4-5.1blu.de> <20170928174836.GA2360@c720-r314251> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 03:04:32 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170928174836.GA2360@c720-r314251> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 01:04:40 -0000 On 09/28/17 19:48, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día jueves, septiembre 28, 2017 a las 02:38:41p. m. +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > >> I have compiled with poudriere: >> >> apache-openoffice-devel-4.2.1780246,4.txz >> >> on amd64 CURRENT; I could check if I stell have the build log from >> poudriere for this port... > I have checked my notes about this and it reads: > > editors/openoffice-devel > #^---- Dell PowerEdge 2h, 8 CPU, swap 11 GB RAM > > The server has around 16 GByte memory and it took 2 hours. My machine has 16Gb of memory and 64 Gb swap. AMD Athlon II X2 250 Processor (3013.68-MHz K8-class CPU) Still stuck at the same place as before, but thank you for sharing. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 29 05:04:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4B2E23216 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 05:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1378B7DE47 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 05:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [89.204.135.99] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dxnT0-0002io-K7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 07:04:02 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id v8T53xVm002361 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 07:03:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id v8T53w7m002360 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 07:03:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 07:03:57 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Openoffice Message-ID: <20170929050357.GA2321@c720-r314251> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48b88b21-9874-75f3-c03e-c5bae24b7757@bananmonarki.se> <20170928123841.GA5435@sh4-5.1blu.de> <20170928174836.GA2360@c720-r314251> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.0 (2017-02-23) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.135.99 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 05:04:13 -0000 --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El d=C3=ADa viernes, septiembre 29, 2017 a las 03:04:32a. m. +0200, Bernt H= ansson escribi=C3=B3: > > The server has around 16 GByte memory and it took 2 hours. > My machine has 16Gb of memory and 64 Gb swap. > AMD Athlon II X2 250 Processor (3013.68-MHz K8-class CPU) >=20 > Still stuck at the same place as before, but thank you for sharing. What does 'stuck' mean exactly? 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Fri, 29 Sep 2017 06:53:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B142C80840 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 06:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:1c1d:86a1:a200:b700]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11C3A12B7F for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 06:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: A few questions about FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 07:53:35 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="umpmc6okMnEmCEEdkCh2RpnhupiIuVWa1" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 06:53:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --umpmc6okMnEmCEEdkCh2RpnhupiIuVWa1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PC9sGAaCElLgkmkPMsqR6WqC4uoKVwvmn"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: A few questions about FreeBSD References: In-Reply-To: --PC9sGAaCElLgkmkPMsqR6WqC4uoKVwvmn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29/09/2017 06:37, Manish Jain wrote: > 1) As a desktop system, is it needed to have a swap partition at all ? = > My system is AMD Athlon X2 270 with 8 GB DDR3 RAM and no swap, running = > KDE4. The box works wonderfully for me. >=20 > Is swap advisable for 8 GB ? 4 GB ? 2GB RAM ? >=20 > Less than that much is essentially unheard of nowadays. How much swap to configure depends very much on your workload. Nowadays however I think the assumption is that you should have enough RAM to contain your whole workload /without/ actively swapping. Some inactive memory pages may still be swapped out -- but these tend to be only a small amount and the system wouldn't really suffer if it couldn't swap them out. Swap then becomes principally the backing store for things like tmpfs. OTOH, it is actually very easy to use up many GB of memory for normal desktop activities. Some web browsers are notorious memory hogs. So having swap available to act as a buffer should you run out of available RAM is still a good idea -- it saves on the alternative, which is the kernel arbitrarily killing off large processes in order to relieve the out-of-memory condition. How much swap to allocate? I think for "small" memory systems -- say up to 4GB -- the old rule of swap =3D 2 * RAM is still a good one. For bigger memory systems, allocating twice that much as swap is just wasteful. Maxing out at 8GB swap would not be unreasonable. But these are just rules of thumb, and should be adapted to whatever your workload actually requires. > 2) Since I do not use video-chat, I needed some tips about video-chat=20 > software that works well under FreeBSD. Would that be Jitsi ? Skype ? I know iXsystems has a video chat solution that works well in Firefox on Trueos. Most Video Conferencing setups rely on WebRTC support in your web browser, which in theory should work fine with FreeBSD, but in practise seems to be very OS and version dependent. IIRC, Google Hangouts have been known to work with Chrome on FBSD, but no idea if that is still the case -- they stopped working with Firefox on many platforms over the last few months (which was down to Firefox changing things, not Google.) Cheers, Matthew --PC9sGAaCElLgkmkPMsqR6WqC4uoKVwvmn-- --umpmc6okMnEmCEEdkCh2RpnhupiIuVWa1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJZze31XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATsngP/3xvhRaLjUpOCamhGrWbxb9A HMP4qDLqP9OPb9cUUbGQOfd7rvAW4IHFYsb7L/R5l4SOxL/YOWZfp7XikAdVsnID 1rTtGaKpgtTIGwrOUpfMCvnVUeno8DT4TcInx3HmcvzoHJy7nw7F3886W1UChfin BfzbT/ilU1r0M5iNw2oR49oBV67oRmA2/egBPJxNy/DdwIqmsGVr5hHOJeDBsLfE AA5Wf98ZCRIzcX7TSZoxZlcHiaCu4dGvffnsiHv8V46D0UzURQVEzJgB0380Oxsu TMVPRHpStqWMo4gOd53wKLQw2EhHSF48+dchvlIPa7b6ABzISY2+Ek7uThcaqGSY MzCx4LAabb6+4YANJYU/g8xJ1ebiAsbDDkt/NX2+rzt/fPre8dcaAo+2gleMpNdR xj7HbWV/9Tk45uYNhUuAzu4dClgrf4AnGvlG6m9yly0HqzffOpzJIVXFSTcjIYPF OP+/PN7Zq5GyWWwQyu7K1cLxs6JDRmE2oXVZA23OuqZ2oo9ZT+sFjqtLI2XOw7C1 I6CStErmy4y/fCmFsrPj+GhuA/Qzkg5asSgu3KPOG5PuMCLeGtufCknerFgKFij5 Gi9b2iwM+mpDjyjbNOq+MiKk+OrqOLu8hfSfLr4Rx2ggvXIqEckTxMf4PEnI2MMU YeoHbtqaD68eEQjUY++X =df3J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --umpmc6okMnEmCEEdkCh2RpnhupiIuVWa1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 29 10:08:42 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C0BE28F87 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from bca5.email-od.com (bca5.email-od.com [207.246.239.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07A6AF7F for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1506679721; x=1509271721; h=x-thread-info:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=74fIsbikya1tuyKnBekH3Xd5LsolGtivw03jHk+MZDA=; b=YgJtCDpdzAK4e6bjX7GeIqjqZlzHWGGwK6be73rOdH4zWQ7O7wn9siIqiu+uJPni6boG3MosxDujK7mmiB3qcJtnQd8OkmVRY/iJrJr3SAHlAgrgMUlFcgQTrpth43TLIpi9+192E3t1bkAM1alabkwkvjba1PjV2KS/6DO6k6o= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi5lMzAwMDAwMDAzNTBjMS5mcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9ucz1mcmVlYnNkLm9yZw== Received: from r3.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com [54.187.94.11]) by bca2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 29 Sep 2017 05:08:17 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r3.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 29 Sep 2017 05:08:17 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1dxrHK-0002oQ-6L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 09:08:14 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:08:14 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A few questions about FreeBSD Message-Id: <20170929100814.7b2e0d46dedd603240f14d86@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:08:42 -0000 On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 05:37:10 +0000 Manish Jain wrote: > 1) As a desktop system, is it needed to have a swap partition at all ? > My system is AMD Athlon X2 270 with 8 GB DDR3 RAM and no swap, running > KDE4. The box works wonderfully for me. > > Is swap advisable for 8 GB ? 4 GB ? 2GB RAM ? Short answer yes. Long answer - these days you should size your system so that it doesn't need swap under normal or even common abnormal conditions because the disparity between memory speed and swap is dramatic even with SSDs. Usually when there is swap the OS will make use of it for long unused pages which frees a little more memory for active work. However it is the behaviour under abnormal conditions that makes having swap desirable. Without swap the first thing a runaway memory eater causes is random process killings, with swap the first symptom is things getting slow but still working so you (as sysadmin) have a chance to do something constructive about the problem. Graceful degradation is a good thing to have. Also memory is cheap but disc (or SSD) space even cheaper allocating a few gigs to swap is practically free. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 29 10:18:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8E7E292F2 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:18:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A24191498 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:18:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id v8TAIWP2046744; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 12:18:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: Openoffice To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48b88b21-9874-75f3-c03e-c5bae24b7757@bananmonarki.se> <20170928123841.GA5435@sh4-5.1blu.de> <20170928174836.GA2360@c720-r314251> <20170929050357.GA2321@c720-r314251> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <09fab30f-a775-1a91-92eb-94c7a390b699@bananmonarki.se> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 12:18:32 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170929050357.GA2321@c720-r314251> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:18:41 -0000 On 09/29/17 07:03, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día viernes, septiembre 29, 2017 a las 03:04:32a. m. +0200, Bernt Hansson escribió: > >>> The server has around 16 GByte memory and it took 2 hours. >> My machine has 16Gb of memory and 64 Gb swap. >> AMD Athlon II X2 250 Processor (3013.68-MHz K8-class CPU) >> >> Still stuck at the same place as before, but thank you for sharing. > What does 'stuck' mean exactly? A proc in CPU loop or waiting for > something? > ps ax tells me this 24467 0 IW+ 0:00.00 make LOCALIZED_LANG=sv 24535 0 IW+ 0:00.00 make CONFIG_DONE_APACHE-OPENOFFICE-DEVEL=1 /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/.stage_done.apache-openoffice._usr_local 24610 0 IW+ 0:00.00 perl -S /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solenv/bin/build.pl --all -P1 -- -P2 27480 0 IW+ 0:00.00 perl -S /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solenv/bin/build.pl --all -P1 -- -P2 27481 0 IW+ 0:00.00 dmake -P2 27484 0 IW+ 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/bash -c cd .. && gmake -r -j2 && gmake -r deliverlog 27485 0 I+ 6:50.15 gmake -r -j2 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 29 17:37:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C291CE31797 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byond.lenox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f173.google.com (mail-yw0-f173.google.com [209.85.161.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85FCB6F184 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byond.lenox@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-f173.google.com with SMTP id w22so229238ywa.13 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:37:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=JysHhD7pBeM6KKIDByPZYSu6ZGlSWKHFu31Oiqu+DFE=; b=czQgcDBxxc18v2Cbr1I3l+4IUsth+74TqpJfEomnGknS4FK9KQTQJyvDnXvng+YhFj Ia8ZZP40B1o2dBVYZvM5W/2Y7v8T809kTtun6xejfTMmzc8oFN3vpq7JH3A5dd0nJC6A Vut3qE9r8Yjss1rXKG1eqXGZqtI47dt2x9a0Sh/fxsmgNg00K0aoH3Urpwl3lVBCGgA7 Hxt+/d6YHF9N6e1rhwdzIjfWsID3lSRpAeG/cqL9xn+t5FjJM5Cq9+UN9ijKb1YyFS1H lf1WiIo7QJSTF+lG3vy0Yhy0tsmlxajlhFKTlAxlgEItqBCZbyB/kxtBg04i3NmvDV05 cmEA== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUiaTO0XCAJ/UQB8f232aNaP6xzGaj2l+TApetYlSM6nSwWMYQaO zgE4gKPABu2H6sMXU/1Sjzw+haaO X-Received: by 10.129.160.69 with SMTP id x66mr6890087ywg.167.1506706670918; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-f41.google.com (mail-oi0-f41.google.com. [209.85.218.41]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p6sm2098747ywp.85.2017.09.29.10.37.50 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f41.google.com with SMTP id j126so536765oia.10 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:37:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QCrlZVwScUe/O1DB4FnQ6PYeCiTgR6t7cL9lDdhct8s9WezYX1Xw8u8iYg/fAK2FvPIQdLMbwv1obINheRfHvI= X-Received: by 10.202.212.209 with SMTP id l200mr2534185oig.360.1506706670117; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:37:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.36.197 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:37:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1506271295.2905.2.camel@au.dyndns.ws> References: <5070A4D6-BB0D-423E-8CE4-92C501D78AE7@gmail.com> <1506271295.2905.2.camel@au.dyndns.ws> From: Kyle Evans Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 12:37:29 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: ESP8266 with Arduino IDE To: Wayne Sierke Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Brad Salai Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:37:52 -0000 On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Wayne Sierke wrote: > Hi Kyle, > > I've just started investigating the options for doing EPS8266 > development on FreeBSD (in the first instance using a WeMos D1 R2 > board) and found this message. Has there been any progress? > > > Thanks, > > Wayne > > Hi, There has been progress, but I hit a roadblock at some point with what I think was binutils doing something bad and producing objects of the wrong endian-ness. I've been working the past couple days to recover the work that I had done so I can shoot it to others to review and point out my screw-up. Thanks, Kyle Evans From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 29 17:42:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965CDE31A72 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D9E66F63A for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 19:42:17 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-92.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55F4F3CCD5; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 19:42:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8THgF7U002181; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 19:42:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 19:42:15 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: A few questions about FreeBSD Message-Id: <20170929194215.78eee432.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with 93F37683479 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1487 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:42:26 -0000 On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 05:37:10 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > Hi, > > I am writing a doc about FreeBSD/Unix. > > There are a few questions I wish to be get the answers for. > > 1) As a desktop system, is it needed to have a swap partition at all ? The question is malformed. :-) You (probably) need a swap partition for two typical reasons: 1. RAM is full -> system needs to swap to disk 2. kernel crash -> system needs to write a dump file Now you might say: Desktop users aren't interested in kernel dumps, so you could remove reason 2. There are configuration options to prevent the system from trying dumps. But for reason 1, you can only hope that there is sufficient RAM _and_ no program you're running has a memory leak filling up the RAM. This depends on the (application) software you're using, or the libraries the programs are incorporating, nothing you have real control over. On my desktop systems, I usually have a swap partition. Many years (or maybe decades?) ago, the suggestion was to make it 2 x max. RAM in size, so when your system could be enhanced up to 8 GB RAM; you'd create a swap partition of 16 GB. However, disk space is cheap, so there is no need to fear the swap partition. On the other hand, as today's PCs have lots of RAM, it's also possible to assign swap to RAM. Of course, in case 2, a stored kernel dump will be gone, and case 1 is a totally stupid consideration. :-) > My system is AMD Athlon X2 270 with 8 GB DDR3 RAM and no swap, running > KDE4. The box works wonderfully for me. > > Is swap advisable for 8 GB ? 4 GB ? 2GB RAM ? Depends. As often, it depends on what applications you're running and how they consume RAM. You can use tools like xosview or htop to see if the RAM can be fully occupied. For example, on my home system, I needed to open more than 70 tabs with "Flash" in Opera to get the 2 GB RAM filled, and the system started swapping. > Less than that much is essentially unheard of nowadays. It is no problem to simply add a swap partition. If you don't need it - no problem, it doesn't harm. :-) > 2) Since I do not use video-chat, I needed some tips about video-chat > software that works well under FreeBSD. Would that be Jitsi ? Skype ? As far as I know, "Skype" (now owned by MICROS~1) is not supported. A Linux version might work. Many years ago, I did once try the Linux version, and it worked with video and audio. But that was on FreeBSD 7, if I remember correctly, so I'm totally out of touch with videophone reality. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[74.141.88.147]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id p31sm3294349qtp.12.2017.09.29.13.12.20 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <59CEA922.3070408@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:12:18 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: list of built-in tools Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:12:23 -0000 Looking for a list or index of all the basic system utilities. Like uniq, rev, tr and so on. Are they documented someplace? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 29 20:17:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59ADE34767 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:17:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E24C742F2 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:17:29 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-92.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 238A23CCD5; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:17:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8TKHRAx004202; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:17:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:17:27 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ernie Luzar Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: list of built-in tools Message-Id: <20170929221727.ddba4ff1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <59CEA922.3070408@gmail.com> References: <59CEA922.3070408@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with B6518683517 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1319 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:17:32 -0000 On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:12:18 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Looking for a list or index of all the basic system utilities. > > Like uniq, rev, tr and so on. > > Are they documented someplace? Implicitely documented - "ls /usr/bin". ;-) On the web, there are several blog pages or texts on Github which explain how to use this kind of tools, but FreeBSD does not (as far as I'm aware of) contain a kind of list that covers text processing tools provided by the OS. Add: sed, awk, cut, paste, maybe seq, of course sort, and maybe include tools like rot13, md5 (as they _can_ be seen as text processing tools, too). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 29 21:45:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B865E35BEC for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 21:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) Received: from barracuda.ssimicro.com (barracuda.ssimicro.com [96.46.39.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ssimicro.com", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDACA76473 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 21:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1506720538-08e7172d0c59e810001-jLrpzn Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) by barracuda.ssimicro.com with ESMTP id z7htkoqdXtJAI2Fk (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:28:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: markham@ssimicro.com X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: mail.ssimicro.com[64.247.129.10] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 64.247.129.10 Received: from markham.ssimicro.com (markham.ssimicro.com [64.247.130.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v8TLSvsa010599 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 15:28:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) Subject: Re: list of built-in tools To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: list of built-in tools References: <59CEA922.3070408@gmail.com> From: markham breitbach Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 15:28:57 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59CEA922.3070408@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US X-Barracuda-Connect: mail.ssimicro.com[64.247.129.10] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1506720538 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://barracuda.ssimicro.com:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 526 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at ssimicro.com X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using per-user scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.43457 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 21:45:33 -0000 This should give you a fairly complete list: find `echo $PATH | tr : "\n"` -perm -4 -M On 2017-09-29 2:12 PM, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Looking for a list or index of all the basic system utilities. > > Like uniq, rev, tr and so on. > > Are they documented someplace? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 30 00:34:20 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22068E37F4D for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 00:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFB607E839 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 00:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from cds143.dcs.int.inet ([10.0.153.165]) by shaw.ca with SMTP id y5jOdzdO4M9gty5jPdwQ09; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 18:34:13 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=shaw.ca; s=s20150330; t=1506731653; bh=2MZWCBw5nA0olIgobQwneA43+b5PYhmsHudcle0ktOo=; h=Date:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:References:To; b=SyTjohvu99c+Obb0nnJ3ZukJDBQDomJUOP1F80KeKX7n3pl0f5UbHQJkzcw0fQrg1 YIiVW/uYXVu6jjF48+e32DpOAuaCsDVf4YP9PJYce3mb2rGjJ2sLPD+G37KkGHI48H Hf8Jcdmm56JjrgownqlntnVxjegdV+tepv+A+eOdezGtvQdxPu8DZA57Qmaka/S0CA hDPtB8Ya0ZiAH5/hqQmZng1zEAlMPnd0orkxa9TKtZWEwhUNhLb6UUm52KheWevOBB kYnElppUy3m1KdHz9M3fNiSeWRQKnI2lT/Q1P/0jQteRd5G/vs/Q70PgWXjErFirKo TQaPpJWVx1pyw== X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=a+JAzQaF c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=/UpIoJrLhaD689zIoPQAHQ==:117 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=VY3jW7vHAAAA:8 a=bkUGD_vVAAAA:8 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=JItFEmgpSMHkflKseR8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=UKjBECWEfCFPfndWmoCD:22 a=_FVE-zBwftR9WsbkzFJk:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Client-ID: 6080 X-Mailer: BlackBerry Email (10.3.3.2205) X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.6.0_GA_1200 (MobileSync - RIM-Q10-SQN100-1/10.3.3.2205) Message-ID: <20170930003410.6041685.69606.6080@shaw.ca> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 18:34:10 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: list of built-in tools From: Dale Scott In-Reply-To: References: <59CEA922.3070408@gmail.com> To: markham breitbach , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thread-Topic: list of built-in tools Thread-Index: Mk0utWRaTchaCx4QBx1Cm8p2Wf7vZA== X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfOmjlWeIuQR5n0kr+nwdHiB8WIWvtYbKwKMm8humK6WG1OKNWqDAsAiV05DRtPgJiAzuUqvDvtd6c9ze9+EJy6WBL5bauTLeQh1xUjlBcdKXXIU37WGb qTG9YdkmkChyUTijPc1rA3qwJ7dGltWcTPSCKoTUQ7xQrhm8yY1ySEAUwnZi2v1K6HxnftQWrEeU3yrT100beZuEMrP7J8dgFR38XvoJXUInCV/tEXXllo3Y X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 00:34:20 -0000 Complete FreeBSD has some good chapters. http://www.lemis.com/grog/Document= ation/CFBSD/ Also GNU has some nice PDF documentation on core as well as text processing= utilities.Double-check man pages though for FreeBSD as there may be some d= ifferences in behavior. E.g. https://www.google.ca/url?q=3Dhttps://www.gnu.= org/s/coreutils/manual/coreutils.pdf&sa=3DU&ved=3D0ahUKEwiYovOI08vWAhUW1mMK= HXljBrgQFggQMAI&usg=3DAFQjCNHf95yNhFagEPtCV2WtuaXC91Ry4Q Cheers, Dale =C2=A0 Original Message =C2=A0 From: markham breitbach Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 3:45 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply To: markham breitbach Subject: Re: list of built-in tools This should give you a fairly complete list: find `echo $PATH | tr : "\n"` -perm -4 -M On 2017-09-29 2:12 PM, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Looking for a list or index of all the basic system utilities. > > Like uniq, rev, tr and so on. > > Are they documented someplace? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 30 05:48:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18914E0EFA8 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 05:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from bca5.email-od.com (bca5.email-od.com [207.246.239.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA7633AAC for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 05:48:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1506750535; x=1509342535; h=x-thread-info:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v8p6RwAlOksFc1Lg5IzhfyP8UjITmmmBYwRZwIAlRP4=; b=FqRLXa7HnY+oOd1UxYmf3xi6nPcjNGUoo9uVk16vrAJq7FB5xGoAYy/zwiDcHtA8tx1rfo5Kp5KLoAVFXjyhaCSmvluphndYoZIXCkv2p50Dp+G7GqB+oo/+B+kr5hH4VHIfgh2GBhbO5jjJe5+2whD589g4Kpi1cZ0cTNmWdL4= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi5lMzAwMDAwMDA5NTcyZC5mcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9ucz1mcmVlYnNkLm9yZw== Received: from r1.h.in.socketlabs.com (r1.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.11]) by bca2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 30 Sep 2017 01:48:48 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r1.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 30 Sep 2017 01:48:49 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1dyAdq-000KPb-NG; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 05:48:46 +0000 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 06:48:46 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: list of built-in tools Message-Id: <20170930064846.b9544fc8be7abda477148471@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20170929221727.ddba4ff1.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <59CEA922.3070408@gmail.com> <20170929221727.ddba4ff1.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 05:48:57 -0000 On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:17:27 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:12:18 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > > Looking for a list or index of all the basic system utilities. > > > > Like uniq, rev, tr and so on. > > > > Are they documented someplace? > > Implicitely documented - "ls /usr/bin". ;-) Better ls /usr/share/man/man1 > On the web, there are several blog pages or texts on Github > which explain how to use this kind of tools, but FreeBSD does > not (as far as I'm aware of) contain a kind of list that covers > text processing tools provided by the OS. This is one of the longest standing weaknesses of unix documentation, there are no entry points. Somebody should make a simple index page of all the commands with a one liner description and a man page - bonus for splitting them by category. Now where did I put those tuits. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 30 06:18:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFBB9E0F8FF for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 06:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) Received: from barracuda.ssimicro.com (barracuda.ssimicro.com [96.46.39.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ssimicro.com", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA65F63879 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 06:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1506752284-08e7172d0b5ca0e0001-jLrpzn Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) by barracuda.ssimicro.com with ESMTP id F6464jkgRLsLKxQb (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 02:18:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: markham@ssimicro.com X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: mail.ssimicro.com[64.247.129.10] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 64.247.129.10 Received: from Markhams-MBP.lan (64-247-138-144.ssimicro.com [64.247.138.144]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v8U6I310075696 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 00:18:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.ssimicro.com: Host 64-247-138-144.ssimicro.com [64.247.138.144] claimed to be Markhams-MBP.lan Subject: Re: list of built-in tools To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: list of built-in tools References: <59CEA922.3070408@gmail.com> <20170929221727.ddba4ff1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170930064846.b9544fc8be7abda477148471@sohara.org> From: markham breitbach Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 00:18:03 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170930064846.b9544fc8be7abda477148471@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Barracuda-Connect: mail.ssimicro.com[64.247.129.10] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1506752285 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://barracuda.ssimicro.com:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 1079 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at ssimicro.com X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using per-user scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.43471 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 06:18:09 -0000 This is a pretty good start: https://www.safaribooksonline.com/library/view/unix-in-a/0596100299/ -M On 2017-09-29 11:48 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:17:27 +0200 > Polytropon wrote: > >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:12:18 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: >>> Looking for a list or index of all the basic system utilities. >>> >>> Like uniq, rev, tr and so on. >>> >>> Are they documented someplace? >> Implicitely documented - "ls /usr/bin". ;-) > Better ls /usr/share/man/man1 > >> On the web, there are several blog pages or texts on Github >> which explain how to use this kind of tools, but FreeBSD does >> not (as far as I'm aware of) contain a kind of list that covers >> text processing tools provided by the OS. > This is one of the longest standing weaknesses of unix > documentation, there are no entry points. Somebody should make a simple > index page of all the commands with a one liner description and a man page > - bonus for splitting them by category. > > Now where did I put those tuits. > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 30 09:18:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B68E1FB39 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:18:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.home.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FAB967932 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v8U8uQW7068857; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:56:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Subject: Re: list of built-in tools To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon References: <59CEA922.3070408@gmail.com> <20170929221727.ddba4ff1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170930064846.b9544fc8be7abda477148471@sohara.org> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <74552c8a-f888-4915-fe49-69314c2b0acf@qeng-ho.org> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:56:26 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170930064846.b9544fc8be7abda477148471@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:18:27 -0000 On 30/09/2017 06:48, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:17:27 +0200 > Polytropon wrote: > >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:12:18 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: >>> Looking for a list or index of all the basic system utilities. >>> >>> Like uniq, rev, tr and so on. >>> >>> Are they documented someplace? >> >> Implicitely documented - "ls /usr/bin". ;-) > > Better ls /usr/share/man/man1 > >> On the web, there are several blog pages or texts on Github >> which explain how to use this kind of tools, but FreeBSD does >> not (as far as I'm aware of) contain a kind of list that covers >> text processing tools provided by the OS. > > This is one of the longest standing weaknesses of unix > documentation, there are no entry points. Somebody should make a simple > index page of all the commands with a one liner description and a man page > - bonus for splitting them by category. If my failing memory isn't lying to me, back in ancient times when Unix was on version 6, "man intro" did something like that. Of course, there were far less commands then, and the line printer listing of kernel+world was only about an inch thick. > Now where did I put those tuits. It's always difficult to find one's tuits, and only gets worse as you get older. -- An amusing coincidence: log2(58) = 5.858 (to 0.0003% accuracy). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 30 09:45:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23C3E2331B for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:45:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk (outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk [95.142.156.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E4D06840D for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:45:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk (unknown [82.71.56.121]) (Authenticated sender: mailpool@milibyte.co.uk) by outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B705A241871CB; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:31:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (helo=curlew) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dyEDb-0005F6-Sv; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:37:56 +0100 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:36:59 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: Ernie Luzar Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20170930102741.3e3199bf@curlew> In-Reply-To: <59CEA922.3070408@gmail.com> References: <59CEA922.3070408@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Subject: Re: list of built-in tools Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:45:00 -0000 On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:12:18 -0400 Ernie Luzar wrote: > Looking for a list or index of all the basic system utilities. You can get a list of names and descriptions with this Bourne shell command: cd /usr/share/man/man1 && (for i in `ls -1 | sed 's/\.1\.gz//'`; do whatis $i ; done) 2>/dev/null | sort -u -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 30 10:59:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D366E24F16 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from bca5.email-od.com (bca5.email-od.com [207.246.239.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 063B06BD84 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; 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Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:59:47 +0000 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 11:59:47 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: list of built-in tools Message-Id: <20170930115947.925f75d8d9cea607a85703b6@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20170930102741.3e3199bf@curlew> References: <59CEA922.3070408@gmail.com> <20170930102741.3e3199bf@curlew> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:59:59 -0000 On Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:36:59 +0100 Mike Clarke wrote: > On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:12:18 -0400 > Ernie Luzar wrote: > > > Looking for a list or index of all the basic system utilities. > > You can get a list of names and descriptions with this Bourne shell > command: > > cd /usr/share/man/man1 && (for i in `ls -1 | sed 's/\.1\.gz//'`; 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[217.128.200.48]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e134sm4794339wma.31.2017.09.30.10.00.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Eric Masson Received: from newsrv.interne.associated-bears.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F61EF5; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 19:00:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.associated-bears.org Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org ([127.0.0.1]) by newsrv.interne.associated-bears.org (newsrv.interne.associated-bears.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id em-dC2UYfK0P; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 19:00:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C77BDEEA; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 19:00:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Eric Masson To: Mailing List FreeBSD Questions , Mailing List FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Freeswitch can't stop properly on 11-STABLE User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (berkeley-unix) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.1-STABLE amd64 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 19:00:31 +0200 Message-ID: <86h8vk86kw.fsf@newsrv.interne.associated-bears.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 17:00:37 -0000 Hello, I'm facing an issue with Freeswitch (1.6.x or 1.8.x, FreeBSD port or manual build from FS git) on 11-Stable (GENERIC or custom configuration make no difference). When closing the application via cli, all modules unload until it gets stuck and has to be SIGKILLed to stop the process. I've gathered information that is available in a ticket on Freeswitch JIRA : https://freeswitch.org/jira/browse/FS-10580 The problem seems to be related to 11-Stable as I can't reproduce the issue with 10.3-RELEASE. Any idea, anyone ? Regards Éric Masson From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 30 18:02:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7B4E2C163 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 18:02:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sysadmin@grouchysysadmin.com) Received: from outbound-02.knthost.com (outbound-02.knthost.com [216.17.42.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FA4976AB3 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 18:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sysadmin@grouchysysadmin.com) Reply-To: sysadmin@i.grouchysysadmin.com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 outbound-02.knthost.com 31549633010 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=grouchysysadmin.com; s=default; t=1506794029; bh=Kq1P3jyt21aJsY5uo024V+40R60m4c6cIqhW5eNDAHI=; h=Reply-To:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Oidi+O3JQ26/tkY1uDtxh57Iinjdff7g+2mfQ4AVEQcCY6RyFA/A8+f3moz/g/dMk cS6AKN1vSeKTw0N0clO07DiMF7YWDyVWanBDncegqfwHu9X056K1BxqRQk79fPz7H1 /AnHcFGguRF8rsVgs7Zg5JqzKBrs3WBeRuV99xG/0u8NSYFP1kI7B9TCk/vVjn2bcg 5BNar5cuDNrat6osHYOOX16PscCC8KETQm+2aVnJ82oqcP6kvrd8nuEcOQLiVPzgXM 7PJSmvtMCwCoQstRlJ0rZyF0MBk29fGfJsz7P6Q0DixSXlaPA6v/9KuTrfGeeeNsmG of/7J2LMhadSA== Subject: Re: Freeswitch can't stop properly on 11-STABLE To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86h8vk86kw.fsf@newsrv.interne.associated-bears.org> From: Grouchy Sysadmin Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 12:54:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86h8vk86kw.fsf@newsrv.interne.associated-bears.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 18:02:11 -0000 On 09/30/2017 12:00 PM, Eric Masson wrote: > Hello, > > I'm facing an issue with Freeswitch (1.6.x or 1.8.x, FreeBSD port or > manual build from FS git) on 11-Stable (GENERIC or custom configuration > make no difference). > > When closing the application via cli, all modules unload until it gets > stuck and has to be SIGKILLed to stop the process. > > I've gathered information that is available in a ticket on Freeswitch > JIRA : > https://freeswitch.org/jira/browse/FS-10580 > > The problem seems to be related to 11-Stable as I can't reproduce the > issue with 10.3-RELEASE. > > Any idea, anyone ? > > Regards > > Éric Masson > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I'm seeing the same issue with 1.6. I've not had time to delve into it yet. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 30 20:14:55 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BCFE2E60A for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 20:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay11.qsc.de (mailrelay11.qsc.de [212.99.187.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCD357F034 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 20:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay11.qsc.de; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 22:14:50 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-92.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03B403CCD5; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 22:14:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8UKEmD3002008; Sat, 30 Sep 2017 22:14:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 22:14:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Subject: Re: list of built-in tools Message-Id: <20170930221448.dbeaaf6c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20170930064846.b9544fc8be7abda477148471@sohara.org> References: <59CEA922.3070408@gmail.com> <20170929221727.ddba4ff1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170930064846.b9544fc8be7abda477148471@sohara.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay11.qsc.de with A0C516A3567 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1554 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 20:14:55 -0000 On Sat, 30 Sep 2017 06:48:46 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:17:27 +0200 > Polytropon wrote: > > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:12:18 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > > > Looking for a list or index of all the basic system utilities. > > > > > > Like uniq, rev, tr and so on. > > > > > > Are they documented someplace? > > > > Implicitely documented - "ls /usr/bin". ;-) > > Better ls /usr/share/man/man1 This is "which tools are documented", not "which tools are actually present". On FreeBSD, it effectively doesn't make a difference due to the excellent documentation situation, but it might be surprising on Linux. ;-) > > On the web, there are several blog pages or texts on Github > > which explain how to use this kind of tools, but FreeBSD does > > not (as far as I'm aware of) contain a kind of list that covers > > text processing tools provided by the OS. > > This is one of the longest standing weaknesses of unix > documentation, there are no entry points. There are some "section entry points", typically called "intro", such as "man 1 intro", but it covers general aspects of the section, often in a short manner. > Somebody should make a simple > index page of all the commands with a one liner description and a man page > - bonus for splitting them by category. This can be automated with tools like apropos, and then an output filter that generates groff source for the manpage. Do you know the xman program? It has an interactive chooser for section and individual manual page. What I'd think would be helpful would be a topic-oriented summary page - as you suggested with a one-liner that quickly describes each entry - for each "practical topic", such as an imaginary (for now) "man textproc". It can be discussed in how far such a manpage could be partially auto-generated and if it should be part of the OS or a port. The system already contains "meta-manuals" that do not describe a single program, file, or interface, but instead describe processes and "bigger constructs", for example "man release". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...