From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Apr 2 1:34:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A676D37B417 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 01:34:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id g329Y5a82414 ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 11:34:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id LAA53231 ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 11:34:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 11:34:04 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Terry Lambert Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix Message-ID: <20020402113404.A52321@lpt.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3CA970CD.E76C6568@mindspring.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert wrote: > > > I already have Netscape. You guys were arguing about Netscape > > > not working, and then you go and point me at Netscape... sheesh. > > > Uhh Mozilla != Netscape 4.x > > Netscape 6.x. > > Without the Netscape connection, it fails to support Java. Where did you get that idea? My linux binary of mozilla supports java just fine (not only Sun's plugin but also IBM's), and I'm told java is now supported natively on FreeBSD too, though I haven't tried it. The linux binary also supports all other plugins I can think of. On a related topic -- with the crossover plugin on linux, you can even get the windows versions of quicktime, shockwave director, and windows media plugins to work on mozilla. (for windows media, you need to patch mozilla 0.9.9 or use the cvs version, because of a bug in mozilla which was discovered by the crossover people.) It's not free, but it works very well -- I've tried it and was, frankly, amazed. > > As for big downloads.. Netscape is not significantly smaller. > > Netscape 4.79 for AIX is around 13 Mb vs 16.5 Mb for Mozilla. > > Personally I think the 3.5Mb would be worth it for a browser that > > crashes way _way_ less and has many more useful features. > > But it's binary. And it's supported. And it's not explicitly > labelled as "for testing purposes only!" on the download lead-in > page. What exactly does "supported" mean? When it crashes, do they come and hold your hand? You'll probably get better help with mozilla if you have problems with it. You can use Netscape 6.2.2 on available platforms, it's gotten good reviews. Personally I'll stick with mozilla. Version 1.0 will be out pretty soon, and then the "testing purposes only" guff will be gone, for those who care. Rahul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message