From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 4 07:25:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B625420E; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 07:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x22d.google.com (mail-ob0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64216B74; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 07:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id gq1so7899821obb.18 for ; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 23:25:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=OoJZ1vkEU6sIBRjC9vV1MyBBlsrBSC3WN3X07EcWKJI=; b=bTPXFRP8TuygexM2BKSz272qnJn8f+gH8p4bMN3RrJjgAHlXHSx/NW+ixsG7dtq3Zb /jrYWSFaIieVf5pYUm+81NPrixSihKB8sl1Pi1Us26KxeMlCn5yScsOU6qKtkG4fKLfA V9t7yk1R5a90WI51aWgwMpYwxqePSKauaWbvoIHAlWChXTBBdCTpGKG6OL1l0i05CaHC 1IyY0xaVIp55RB3MzOR+czJKlhdJ1DLoZxEz220CACDUzYa85gN0o1CS7gTSqHmVQQUA 5dgcBm1HDh5WiIKx9UfwEcAWRrs0s5lLAcN7rmsv3I/F9BzenClsKnaBLdMqX/42kC/x 0qdA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.180.7 with SMTP id dk7mr31517640obc.20.1393917940439; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 23:25:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.76.201 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 23:25:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20140227021917.GE81440@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <530EBCDB.1090303@delphij.net> <53138FA6.1060705@delphij.net> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 02:25:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: UDP Lite support From: Joe Nosay To: Xin LI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: Brooks Davis , freebsd-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 07:25:41 -0000 On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Joe Nosay wrote: > > > > On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Joe Nosay wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Joe Nosay wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Joe Nosay wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Xin Li wrote: >>>> >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> Hash: SHA512 >>>>> >>>>> On 3/2/14, 10:42 AM, Joe Nosay wrote: >>>>> > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Joe Nosay >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Xin Li >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> > On 02/26/14 18:52, Joe Nosay wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Brooks Davis >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 07:36:29PM -0500, Joe Nosay >>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> The last thread on this was in 2006. Has it ever been >>>>> >>>>>>> reconsidered or is the likelihood of too many damaged >>>>> >>>>>>> packets the reason for not supporting? I'm not sure >>>>> >>>>>>> where to put this question. Apologies for the noise. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> You've provided next to no context. What is the >>>>> >>>>>> question? What thread are you referring to? If this is >>>>> >>>>>> the usual UDP then freebsd-net would be vastly more >>>>> >>>>>> appropriate than -current. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -- Brooks >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. I will ask kevlo and maybe bring it up on >>>>> >>>>> freebsd-net. It has to do with an implementation of the >>>>> >>>>> JACK server using UDP Lite for transferring data. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/UDP-lite-for-FreeBSD-td4010236.html >>>>> > >>>>> > Looks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > like nobody proposed a patch? >>>>> > >>>>> > I think the concern was that this is not very useful in real-world >>>>> > scenarios due to link layer error detection mechanism but that >>>>> > doesn't raise a red flag to me assuming this is sufficiently self >>>>> > contained feature as it would improve compatibility with other >>>>> > operating systems. >>>>> > >>>>> > Cheers, >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> https://github.com/torelizer/jack_trauma >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Not my project; but, I want to port it to FreeBSD. First is to >>>>> >> get it to build from source. Use your raspberry pi with FreeBSD >>>>> >> to broadcast your tunes and all. >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Thanks for all of the input. The project is being reworked to >>>>> > improve the code. >>>>> >>>>> Kevin Lo have a patchset but needs someone to do performance testing >>>>> (its impact on non-UDPLite applications), test with vimage, etc: >>>>> >>>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~kevlo/udplite.diff >>>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~kevlo/udp-v.diff >>>>> >>>>> Are you interested in working on these and report back? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>> >>>>> iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTE4+mAAoJEJW2GBstM+nsthoQAIW67l7yDfIPvxDsNIWWJcRd >>>>> 8brFYCAOPYE4LpuLGjtSgy370aBe9JmwAm41tE4qF0WhGpcu6TLsKjgMGWa/lHCc >>>>> JId8+WBfbbQT8XJj/d+3oOETn5/rglvlRhJbnNIwaQpTXxuMC5oz2nGW7rIpIkaA >>>>> OHo0D20DzGj4nxrQvijZ7DsMkk3F+KJu/4p7M6lpsIPCakknW1WD7IHRfbZ4Oldz >>>>> 2xH4HfIk7cAdA7i/YUNjlpSgWFQ5OU03J5HAYfC6W37wiGbjdBYf/PKVhJ8hz7+D >>>>> OCl+yCV00u4fCjlY6zXFea9pGr7Cl1P+sapwKDZ4g+NpNHxBUVY+ahbjQUHYON2W >>>>> sdzAsLpMMqavCr1o8mcXdm7IPRlLUK9QZUySC9DitPvoF8G2llTAz1mWa4/Oj7/S >>>>> JMiUERcaL5gdFN8EgEKkamFgLJguYquAjGtiowa51EMbnZG0Q2yWUcrEBFHWBEZT >>>>> RW1u6r4ChIrPE9X5ljfFpQyKG6jFhYFXG+iVlgTB7F2ZWhjPAXi/tLbBnvIcci1m >>>>> Md4XFm/bBJj/yNXdPuCi+CtvvdpZ/d4LQn4B7By5bIo1QjCb4Zx5n2Tq5xnYZUOI >>>>> CnSVnNSkwLbbrAVtYOVWnrSuwR33JQnqeGHdM+XYBBwKBRhrx+ZgFWD7N6Gm95PU >>>>> xXSxkgYVXI4sgi7Lh3Ia >>>>> =2Vmc >>>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have on patch file that Lo sent. Three different files are on it with >>>> the assumption that the patch-root is /usr/src. I'm thinking about snipping >>>> it twice and then applying each subpatch within the proper subdirectory. >>>> Now, this would not when Index:reference is at the header of each, right? >>>> >>> One not one in first sentence. Insert hurt between not & when in last >>> sentence. >>> >>> I'm doing patch -p *.diff and the process is taking some time. What am >> I doing wrong? >> > Syntax. > Rebuild reinstall the source portions in common then find an application > that uses udplite, right? > "Duhhhh." > Thanks. > "Yuhhh" > There is x264 and wireshark as my available options for testing if udp lite works. Give me a moment because I have a single machine and need to setup a virtual graphics card.