From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 14 16:53:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77C91065672 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 16:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f159.google.com (mail-ew0-f159.google.com [209.85.219.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2A58FC18 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 16:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1701898ewy.43 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 09:53:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9J6IcNvIj2KNONCJHiKk3Y63Gx9oyu02EIybCrciXx0=; b=kYaeNWurvpCBT9yK3kB4ozvVy6Q9Tp+uWXSIExvSWwcEC5uRFg9sJIu5kEHLI/R3VS 9uoyRVGWv7oXSBwcW9rKyUYaBtwWOhATpB3n34PiA4lCKpq2MS9CEiV9k2hKxGFvFOZH SmawIoTQAfJbR6LB2yWUTlxM3Ri1PNEuSbdQI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=phbQGp5rUSWlzcFHwGNsXufRplddl1EWK2HsbYPmnAik5OTI0twHuPsuyOoQ2U28up r0U90MG5FFrDqjKR9USgA41Aer6x3OHDL6Jxz2smZlk7ZwfjpeSratXa/7KosXGAxpHj VNVwXe/0hgf7dhDcqw+nIo1gRPgrsElrgLc/0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.116.14 with SMTP id o14mr3041409ebc.33.1242320023267; Thu, 14 May 2009 09:53:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090514160325.GA26585@kokopelli.hydra> References: <200905132211.53066.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <20090514160325.GA26585@kokopelli.hydra> From: Chris Rees Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:53:23 +0100 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to move vi to /bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:53:47 -0000 2009/5/14 Chad Perrin : > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:38:30AM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: >> 2009/5/13 Mel Flynn : >> > On Wednesday 13 May 2009 11:34:43 Michael Powell wrote: >> > >> >> Kind of like how those coming over from a >> >> Linux environment all seem to want to change root's shell to bash, it >> >> serves no purpose except foot-shooting. >> > >> > - csh cannot redirect stderr seperately from stdout >> > - on pipes the exit status from the first command is the exit status of the >> > total command >> > - will not expand matches without a user provided part, for *every* component >> > of a path >> > >> > There's plenty of reasons not to use csh and if you know what you're doing, >> > BSD lets you. And no, I don't want to type exec zsh when I'm finally logged >> > into the box that has a load of 100+. >> >> I think the problem with that is he meant changing the root shell to >> /usr/local/bin/bash. You're better off using /bin/sh if you want a >> Bourne-type shell, or using toor with /usr/local/bin/bash. > > I've never understood the resistance to just use toor instead of root if > one wants a nonstandard administrative shell. > People don't seem to understand that toor and root are equivalent. Or their muscle memory says 'root'! -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?