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Date:      Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:31:30 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Danial Thom <danial_thom@yahoo.com>
To:        "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" <chad@shire.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
Message-ID:  <20060713183130.58232.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <302DCD13-7FFC-4525-AD32-07183BA51BCE@shire.net>

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--- "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC"
<chad@shire.net> wrote:

> 
> On Jul 13, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Danial Thom
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > --- "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC"
> > <chad@shire.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Danial Thom
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> SMP has overhead but FreeBSD on 2 processors
> >> can do more work than
> >> FreeBSD on the same HW with just 1
> processor.
> >> That is a fact.
> >>
> >>> Are you people stupid or delusional?
> >>
> >> No, and the data you posted did not support
> >> your allegations of
> >> performance either.
> >>
> >> Chad
> >
> > I doubt you have the capacity to understand
> the
> > tests, and as they say,  you can't educate
> the
> > woodchucks.
> 
> You can doubt all you want.  The plain fact is
> you said things like  
> 200-400% and the tests and commentary did not
> support that.  You also  
> inferred that a 2 CPU system in SMP mode would
> overall be able to do  
> less work than a 1 CPU system in UP mode.  
> Again, you have given no  
> evidence that this is true and the stuff you
> quoted did not support  
> that.  It did say that there is overhead in the
> SMP code that makes  
> things less efficient and that the overhead is
> more than comparable  
> OSes, at least for the Sparc T1 stuff.
> 
> You are the idiot, Mr. Thom.  You may be
> intellectually smart but you  
> are a blooming idiot when it comes to public
> discourse.  And I will  
> take the advice given earlier, to stop feeding
> the trolls -- you are  
> a supreme troll.
> 
> I may make 2 recommendations:
> 
> #1 read "How to win friends and influence
> people" .  Here is a quick  
> synopsis. 
>
<http://www.mrdata.net/Amazon/Carnegie/friends.htm>;
> 
> #2 learn how to use your email program and to
> trim posts you reply to.
>
Here's the deal, Chad. On this list, all the
college-kid sysadmins tell me how great FreeBSD
is, but on the freebsd-performance list, none of
the developers refute my findings. If that
doesn't tell you something, then you really don't
have the capacity to comment on this or any other
subject.

You can't reason someone out of an idea not
reasoned into, Chad. You have no foundation for
your beliefs, so even prima facie evidence won't
convince you. Its called being a fool.

DT


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