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[174.109.231.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t65sm6485818qke.83.2020.06.19.07.33.47 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49pLs662fpz1VKd for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 10:33:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.3 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 10:33:45 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Update 11.3 > 11.4 Message-ID: <20200619103345.7b6160e8@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20200617134146.00004ce8@seibercom.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.5 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.4) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49pLsB0nqWz4CJv X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=VeCuwzr/; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::844 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.29 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.28)[-0.276]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.109.231.236:received]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.987]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.95)[-0.947]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::844:from]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 14:33:51 -0000 On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 15:16:20 +0100, matthew@FreeBSD.org stated: >On 17/06/2020 18:41, Jerry wrote: >> Now, since I am primarily using poudriere, all I need to do is update >> the poudriere jail and then update all the applications on the >> system. > >Not necessarily. In general packages compiled in an 11.3-RELEASE jail >will work fine on an 11.4-RELEASE machine. The important exception is >Kernel Loadable Modules, which need to be compiled on the same system >version as where they will be run. > >So: if you don't need to build any Kernel modules, then you don't need >to update your poudriere jail. Since updating the poudriere jail will >force poudriere to rebuild _all_ of the packages from that jail (which >could take quite some time) not upgrading or delaying upgrading can be >quite a useful move. > > Cheers, > > Matthew Thanks Matthew. I had to read the documentation on poudriere to force it to update to a new version. It is not something I would remember off the top of my head. I created a simple shell script that handles the usual day-to-day operations like updating the [port tree, building packages and installing them, etc. In any case, I rebuilt the system overnight. I have four cores running, so it really doesn't take that much time. With the exception of "web-gui" or something like that which takes 5+ hours, the rest is quick. I have ccache installed and that takes a lot of time off the build. It might be useful if there was a notation in the "4.6 Building Packages With Poudriere" section about the possibility that the "/usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/*.conf" file might need to be modified after updating to a new jail version. In any case, I will remember your suggestion the next time I update. Just my 2ยข. -- Jerry