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Date:      Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:36:09 -0700 (PDT)
From:      <unknown@riverstyx.net>
To:        rick hamell <hamellr@dsinw.com>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: What's wrong with GPL? (was Re: Jordan the Confused) 
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904160124520.32489-100000@hades.riverstyx.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.990415225959.18984B-100000@dsinw.com>

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That's actually quite different from my experiences.  On the other hand, I
may be missing out on the typical Linux installation difficulties, having
had most of my experience under Linux.  It's been a while since my first
installation -- but the first UNIX-like OS that I ever installed was
FreeBSD, and it definitely seemed more mysterious.

The CD boot feature is pretty particular to you though AFAIK.  Most
installations of Linux that I do take under an hour.  And they do
(sometimes) ask you about setting up PPP, static IP, DHCP, etc.  Redhat
has a pretty slick user interface for setting up PPP (I used it once...
who usees PPP anymore anyway? :-))

But in regards to the GPL, it seems like a fairly innocuous kinda thing.
I write some software, declare it to be GPL'd, and thus guaranteeing that
the source code shall remain available.  It doesn't really limit me all
that much.  And if I write a new version, I can opt to not release it
under the GPL, freeing me from its burdens should I decide that I want to
go commercial with it.

---
tani hosokawa
river styx internet


On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, rick hamell wrote:

> 
> > There've been a couple people complaining about the GPL on this list in
> > the past few messages -- any particular reason why?  RMS is a bit of a
> > prick (especially recently -- I can't believe he wants to rename Linux to
> > GNU/Linux because it tends to ship with Gnu tools), but I don't see a
> > problem with the actual license.
> 
> 	This was my questions too. What makes GPL worse then the FreeBSD 
> licence? Maybe it's more obvious if I wasn't a relative newbie.
> 	Also, in regards to user friendlyness, what are people 
> complaining about? Having just recently install Linux and FreeBSD for the 
> first time within the last six months, I found the FreeBSD install much 
> simpler. Pop in the CDROM, turn on the computer, hit novice install. Away 
> it went... Linux was a pain in the arse... had to download the bootdisks 
> and make them because the boot off cdrom option was broken in that 
> release. In other words, the FreeBSD installation took less then an hour, 
> the Linux one took me nearly two days!	
> 	Now, the big problem I see as a newbie, is the lack of 
> documentation, I'm sure this has been heard before! Even with the 
> documentation we do have it seems to be slightly hard to find. Now, 
> before anyone says anything, I've already started working on 
> documentation myself... :) 
> 	The only other problem I really see is the whole PPP thing, for a 
> month it was the only thing to keep me from using FreeBSD all the time. I 
> think it's confusing because there does not seem to always be a 
> differance (doc wise,) between kernal and user ppp. I also realize that 
> it's probally hard to do so, there are so many options! I'd like to see 
> an installation script of sorts for this with a few simple questions. 
> I.e. is this computer going to be the gateway for a network? Do you have 
> a static IP or do you need to get one assigned? Is your modem PNP or 
> other? Etc, etc. It is my intention to do this... once I figure out how 
> to get ppp working right... :) 
> 
> 
> 						Rick
> 
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