From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 20 09:25:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D9B16A4CE; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:25:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B8243D1F; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:25:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (c211-30-75-229.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.75.229]) i9K9PQQX030635 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:25:27 +1000 Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (localhost.alcatel.com.au [127.0.0.1])i9K9PPxP082665; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:25:25 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost)i9K9PP99082664; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:25:25 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:25:25 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20041020092525.GB79646@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <20041019071102.GA49717@FreeBSD.org> <20041019073145.GA29746@thingy.tbd.co.nz> <20041019.084324.106215221.imp@bsdimp.com> <200410191541.54269.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20041019215007.GA13217@VARK.MIT.EDU> <20041019220031.GA98675@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20041019225231.GA13522@VARK.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041019225231.GA13522@VARK.MIT.EDU> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/i386/net htonl.S ntohl.S X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:25:29 -0000 On Tue, 2004-Oct-19 18:52:31 -0400, David Schultz wrote: >First of all, your 80386 (if it worked) would probably be much >snappier running FreeBSD 3.X or 4.X or NetBSD 1.[2-5]. It is a lot easier to administer a collection of machines that are all running close-to-the-same software. And FreeBSD 2.x is probably a better match for 386-class hardware (the memory and disk footprint is much smaller). > Second, >you can purchase a Linksys gateway for $20, whereas a 386 would >consume more than $20 of power in a few months. You might be able to. The cheapest Linksys gateway/router I can find quickly is AUD102 list (USD75). Erik probably has different cost tradeoffs and might not want to use a closed-source proprietary product as a firewall. >> > Nice. \me can't wait for the day when developers are no longer >> > required to spend time and effort to support anything older than a PPro. >> >> That day will hopefully be far in the future. Personally I don't have >> anything as modern as a PPro. > >Don't worry, it will be. I can dream, can't I? The 486 and Pentium provide useful new instructions and system controls. What benefits does a PPro provide as far as the kernel and core userland is concerned? -- Peter Jeremy