From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Nov 28 23:58: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81CD37B416 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:57:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAT7vox02413; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:57:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <022901c178ab$8b12cb50$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Mike Meyer" Cc: "Mike Meyer" , "Andrew C. Hornback" , References: <004801c17872$98e47b40$6600000a@ach.domain><017f01c1788c$8cb71d90$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15365.52562.394957.602907@guru.mired.org><01fe01c178a1$001d1be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15365.58639.39658.89837@guru.mired.org> Subject: Re: Feeding the Troll (Was: freebsd as a desktop ?) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:57:49 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike writes: > Which is why WNT has the same relation to > VMS that HAL has to IBM. None at all, you mean? I agree. > Be - including BeOS - was bought by Palm > for US $11 million ... And where is this OS today? > Well, for Sun and Apple because they decided > that their wasn't a viable market for the product. If they can develop an OS for thousands of dollars, why not follow it through to completion, anyway? > You got that backwards ... Sorry. > ... it was suitable for some peoples desktop, but > it wasn't suitable for much else. It wasn't > multi-user, and the hardware didn't scale beyond > four processors. Sounds just like a Mac. > For me, it wasn't suitable for the desktop because > they pretty much cloned the Mac desktop, which I > can't stand. Hmm ... see above. > Yup, but it's still data analysis. It's easy to do stuff sequentially. > If there's a local Linux users group, you might point > them at that ... Why? Why recommend Linux over Windows? > That's *especially* true if they are complaining about > problems in the Windows GUI. I don't understand. Why would they complain about Windows problems to a Linux users' group? > That means Unix is an inferior processor for > those applications, not that it's an inferior > desktop. Either way, it pretty much excludes UNIX. > Which ones can you not find an acceptable alternative > for on Unix? I provided a list once before. > Wait a minute, I thought all that multi-user > protection stuff was *bad* for a desktop. It is, but I typically run my desktop machines as servers as well, and I like to secure remote access to the machines. Additionally, in an insecure environment, I run the desktop that way, too. In an office, for example, I sign on to a user account for using the machine, and I lock it each time I step away from my desk. It is true that all this adds a lot of overhead to the system, which is why NT requires more resources than 9x. It's also one way in which NT looks a lot more like UNIX than 9x. > With the command "gimp". They changed the commands > and UI, though. Illustrator is a vector-based drawing application. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message