From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 12 19:27:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23503 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:27:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peloton.physics.montana.edu (peloton.physics.montana.edu [153.90.192.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23488 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.physics.montana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA18860; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:25:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:25:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Brett Taylor Reply-To: Brett Taylor To: GR Gaudreau cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD or Linux? In-Reply-To: <199808130009.UAA02658@hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, GR Gaudreau wrote > > On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 at 19:52 SAT, Brett Taylor wrote: > > Your average Redhat RPM package installs not only the binaries, docs, > > but also all the necessary startup files in Redhat's SysV-like /etc/rc.d > > tree. IOW, should the newbie admin choose to install "everything" during > > system installation, he will also be _running_ everything. > > > > Anyway, I'm wandering off topic here... I did NOT write the above! > Actually, I'm glad you are. What would the difference be with FreeBSD? It > would NOT do what RH 5.1 does? (in response to whomever I'm misquoted as above) Oh I agree, the sys admin SHOULD be able to remove the silly default installed stuff from rc.d tree, but he hadn't. Of course he also allowed a root compromise for a month so clearly he wasn't a great sys admin. The ports system in FreeBSD does the same thing - if you install ssh you'll be running sshd. I was under the impression though that the "I've never ever run Linux" install choice for RH pretty much installed everything (I could certainly be wrong.) In any case, FBSD does NOT during the initial installation install and automatically startup things like gopherd, innd, bootpd (all which were on the RH machine, from the initial install, before I converted it to FBSD). If you want, for instance, gopherd running you must go install the port and add it rc.local. Basically, in FreeBSD, if you want it YOU need to turn it on in FBSD. It appears in my incredibly limited experience w/RH Linux (and the comments from our WinDoZe sys admin who worked w/ the Linux sys admin) that if you don't want it YOU need to turn it off as it's probably on by default if you made a "bad" choice during the initial installation. -shrug- All of this is moot really because the sys admin SHOULD know what's running on startup and deal with it whether it was initially installed or he did it later. :-) Brett ****************************************************************** Brett Taylor brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu http://peloton.physics.montana.edu/brett/ "There is something uncanny in the noiseless rush of the cyclist, as he comes into view, passes by, and disappears." - Popular Science, 1891 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message