From owner-freebsd-security Thu Jun 27 2:27:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2B537B407 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 02:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [217.225.204.77] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.70 #5) id 17NVZ2-0006Ot-00 for freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 11:27:45 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id C41452A0 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 11:27:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jan-linux.lan (jan-linux.lan [192.168.0.20]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 2A4A3174 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 11:27:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Wow (or, How Theo should have handled it) From: Jan Lentfer Cc: FreeBSD Security Mailling List In-Reply-To: <200206270743.g5R7hswj029148@cvs.openbsd.org> References: <200206270743.g5R7hswj029148@cvs.openbsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7-1mdk Date: 27 Jun 2002 11:27:38 +0200 Message-Id: <1025170058.2815.37.camel@jan-linux.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Am Don, 2002-06-27 um 09.43 schrieb Theo de Raadt: [...] > Fact is, you ranting assholes are complete idiots. [...] I thought you did get some sleep by now and would have calmed down a little (as I wished the rest of the list did, too). Can't you get your point through without insulting people? Don't get me wrong, I read what you wrote and I get your point and I have no problem with how things were handeld (since I only maintain a few boxes of arguable value at my university) - but I also would have understood you if you left away the insults and rants. I am on this list for a few weeks now - if it is going on like that I will pretty soon leave and try to get my information elsewhere. For me this topic is through, every thing said now won't change what happend. The way this was handled seems to be at least arguable - maybe a lesson learned - maybe not, we will see. But all this ranting is not getting us any further and it makes it really hard to filter SECURITY-related information from the list. This is just my opinion, if you don't like it - no problem, but I don't care, so don't tell me. Thanks. Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message