From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 09:48:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007B0106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE0C8FC0A for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.starpoint.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id LAA04762; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:47:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.starpoint.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1Rn5ds-0005Ep-Pv; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:47:48 +0200 Message-ID: <4F1543C2.8050404@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:47:46 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Kozubik References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: undefined Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:48:00 -0000 on 17/01/2012 00:28 John Kozubik said the following: > we going to run RELEASE software ONLY My opinion: you've put yourself in a box that is not very compatible with the current FreeBSD release strategy. With your scale and restrictions you probably should just use the FreeBSD source and roll your own releases from a stable branch of interest (including testing, etc). Or have your own "branch" where you could cherry-pick interesting changes from any FreeBSD branches. Tools like e.g. git and mercurial make it easy. Of course, this strategy is not as easy as trying to persuade the rest of FreeBSD community/project/thing to change its ways, but perhaps a little bit more realistic. You can bond with similarly minded organizations to share costs/work/etc. It's a community-driven project after all. -- Andriy Gapon