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Date:      Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:46:29 +1030
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Scott Mitchell <scott+freebsd@fishballoon.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Strange crash, possibly vinum-related
Message-ID:  <20030319001629.GE84879@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030318112819.GA33972@tuatara.fishballoon.org>
References:  <20030310231532.GD522@tuatara.fishballoon.org> <20030317105828.GA23237@tuatara.fishballoon.org> <20030317235236.GH9422@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030318112819.GA33972@tuatara.fishballoon.org>

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On Tuesday, 18 March 2003 at 11:28:19 +0000, Scott Mitchell wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 10:22:36AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Monday, 17 March 2003 at 10:58:28 +0000, Scott Mitchell wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:15:32PM +0000, Scott Mitchell wrote:
>>>
>>> No takers?
>>
>> I've been intending to do so, but there's not much I can do based on
>> the information you've supplied.
>
> Thanks for replying -- I didn't bother you personally with this
> before precisely because I didn't think I had enough information
> there to diagnose the problem fully.  Is there anything in
> particular I can send you that might help?

The canonical list is at
http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/how-to-debug.html.

>>> 	- Rebuilding the drive without unmounting the volume first was
>>> 	just asking for trouble?
>>
>> There have been reports of this kind of problem, mainly from Vallo
>> Kallaste, who has also responded.  I haven't seen it myself, and I
>> haven't heard of panics as a result.  But yes, umounting is a good
>> precaution.
>
> I've added that to my checklist for next time :-)
>
> Please let me know if there's any other logs you'd like to see or anything
> else I can try.  I'm actually planning to set up a very similar array on
> another identical machine once 4.8 is released, so there's a window for
> experimentation there, on a non-production machine.

Well, feel free to try to break it and reproduce Vallo's problems, but
I really need to reproduce it here so that I can poke at the problem
and fix it.

Greg
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