From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 14:30:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4ED21065670 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563AF8FC41 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:30:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m2DEUIdI011530; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:30:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m2DEUIag011529; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:30:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:30:18 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20080313143018.GA11507@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <47D7CE4E.7030508@alshome.be> <20080312095238.35d257d2.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20080312151922.GC6354@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080312112736.47c2c4b5.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20080312154658.GA6696@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080312221432.ff2fd465.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080312221432.ff2fd465.wmoran@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Superuser password lost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:30:02 -0000 On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:14:32PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > > Because I don't think it's appropriate to drag this conversation on > and on, I'm going to try to answer all the responses in a single > email. > > Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:27:36AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > > No. The term "superuser" is a made-up term for any way of gaining > > > root privs. In my experience it's confusing as there are two > > > commonly used methods for doing this, the su command and sudo, and > > > they require different passwords. > > > > I have never seen the term used that way. > > > > I have seen su and sudo referred to as ways of a non-root id gaining > > superuser priviledge/root priviledge but not a superuser as someone who > > is not root, but has a method of gaining root priviledge. > > Apparently I miscommunicated. My point was that the OP's message used > the term "superuser" in an ambiguous way. (i.e. the way I mentioned). > To me, it wasn't clear what it was asking for, and thus sending the OP > to the PC-BSD community (where folks are probably familiar to the > GUI widget he's dealing with) seemed the best thing to do. I don't really care, but when I read the OP, I believed he was looking for root from what was presented and so that was how I responded. The rest is just small talk. But, asking the PC-BSD folk is not a bad idea. ////jerry > ... > ... > > Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > > > > I'd contend that the su manpage *should* say root not superuser, since > > root is hardwired as the default. But for other cases, any user with > > UID 0 might work just as well (e.g. toor). > > I agree on this point, but not enough to bother trying to put a patch > together that (based on the conversation here) is likely to be > controversial. > > -- > Bill Moran > http://www.potentialtech.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"