From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 17 13:39:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03285 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:39:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peacock.tci.com (coral.tci.com [198.178.8.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03280 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:39:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@tci.com) Received: from oreo.tci.com (co-chris-pc01.tci.com [172.18.27.65]) by peacock.tci.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA16029; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:39:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from tci.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oreo.tci.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA01428; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:38:48 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36A25867.5EF5E5CE@tci.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:38:47 -0700 From: Chris Tubutis Organization: Tele-Communications, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Pielorz CC: jack , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Heavy on the Verbosity (was) Re: Annoying messages on startup.. References: <36A24F91.478B5387@tdx.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Karl Pielorz wrote: > > Coming from someone who's spent the best part of last week trying to diagnose > various hardware & software problems on NT & Win'95 machines (to almost no > avail), I'd appreciate as much verbosity being left _in_ the kernel & FreeBSD > as possible... I'm fed up with seeing "Unknown error", or "Unknown errors > occured" or "Service Failed" and the like on competitor / other products... > Make them only 'if verbose' if you need to - just don't lose them > alltogether!... :) This is a very good point, something that I strongly agree with. As hard as I try not to, I find myself having to deal with products from Redmond while at work. Yeah, stuff like "Error connecting to database" tells me absolutely nothing and is frustrating as all Hell. Maybe a way to toggle the verbosity to suit individual preferences would be a good way to go? ct To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message