From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Tue Jan 3 19:35:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC8BC9D9D0 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2017 19:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmacy@nextbsd.org) Received: from sender-of-o52.zoho.com (sender-of-o52.zoho.com [135.84.80.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 330771C33 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2017 19:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmacy@nextbsd.org) Received: from mail.zoho.com by mx.zohomail.com with SMTP id 1483472106600953.0039545627398; Tue, 3 Jan 2017 11:35:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2017 11:35:06 -0800 From: Matthew Macy To: "gurenchan" Cc: "Roland Smith" , "Zane C. B-H." , Message-Id: <15965d3f462.e563526350116.951917747823032795@nextbsd.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20161230163653.54909631@rsbsd.rsb> <15952279f17.e0be0d8c34357.732964216134709731@nextbsd.org> <20161231120453.13adf858@thor.walstatt.dynvpn.de> <20161231145143.18e6ac99@rsbsd.rsb> <20161231131150.GA3514@lonesome.com> <20161231160319.1a77a8fd@azsupport.com> <822e64b6a6efa38ad5331e2be3f175f9@vvelox.net> <20170103183149.GA86111@slackbox.erewhon.home> Subject: Re: End of year Xorg status rant MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Zoho Mail X-Mailer: Zoho Mail X-Zoho-Virus-Status: 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2017 19:35:22 -0000 =20 =20 Before commenting further you should really dig in to what is t= here now. See sys/dev/drm2 in 11/12 and drivers/gpu/drm & sys/compat/linuxk= pi in my drm-next branches.---- On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 11:02:57 -0800 blubee = blubeeme wrote ----I've never liked lines of code as a= measure of how good software is. I like challenges. Best, Owen On Wed, J= an 4, 2017, 02:33 Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Jan 03,= 2017 at 12:14:54AM -0600, Zane C. B-H. wrote: > > On 2016-12-31 09:03, And= rei wrote: > > > On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 07:11:51 -0600 > > > Mark Linimon wrote: > > > > > >> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 02:51:55PM += 0300, Beeblebrox via freebsd-x11 > > >> wrote: > > >> > I'm sure the Founda= tion and developers have been debating whether to > > >> > drop desktop all= together > > >> > > >> I have never heard of any such discussion. > > Woul= d the Foundation be willing to sponsor a developer to work on X? I'd be > w= illing to donate toward that. > > > Honestly this entire thread has been fu= ll of WTF. > > Second that. > > > I've been using FreeBSD for desktop purpo= ses since like late 2001/early > > 2002. The only issue I've ever had is X = -configure does a shit job of > > picking defaults at times, but that is no= t a FreeBSD issue. > > I've been using FreeBSD amd64 on desktops and laptop= s since 2004 (5.3). > > Mostly on Radeon GPU's. > > On the whole, I'd say X= works fine. > > > Yes, X tends to lag a bit behind Linux, > > Given limite= d manpower, that is pretty much a given. Especially since Linux > graphics = seem (IMO) to be in a permanent state of flux. > > > but all in all X is a = much > > better experience on FreeBSD than Linux. One of the big thing that= > > really stands out between the two is screen tearing is rare on FreeBSD= > > compared to Linux. > > I cannot recall ever seeing screen tearing on F= reeBSD. > > > X works well enough under FreeBSD that I honestly use it for = gaming via > > wine. > > > > Personally I am proud and happy with what our = X team has done with it, > > Ditto. > > > especially with Intel chipset sup= port since like 10, making using it on > > a broader number of laptops all = that more awesome. In 11 it is > > completely goat fragging wiz with the ne= w KMS stuff. <3 > > The new KMS works fine with my Radeons. > > Roland > --= > R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl= / > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciate= d] > pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33= E0) > _______________________________________________ freebsd-x11@freebsd.o= rg mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 To u= nsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=20 =20 =20 =20 =20