From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Oct 12 18:04:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA03363 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:04:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from usr05.primenet.com (tlambert@usr05.primenet.com [206.165.6.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA03354 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA04724; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:04:03 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710130104.SAA04724@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: fnord0: disabled, not probed. To: hoek@hwcn.org (Tim Vanderhoek) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:04:03 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, hoek@hwcn.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Tim Vanderhoek" at Oct 12, 97 08:39:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > No, I check it if I have unexplained problems. Besides, I learned to > > read the significant stuff scrolling at 19.2 a long time ago... 8-). > > Which means you don't fix things until _after_ you've had > unexplained problems... I tried it the other way, but it just didn't work out; everyone called it "research" for some reason. 8-) 8-). > Regardless of wether I have a case or not (I happen to think that > in the specific instance I do -- someone brand new to the OS > should assume that things going wrong are their fault and not the > result of an `internally inconsistent' OS) little Johnny is still > not going to benefit from a thousand or so "disabled, not probed" > messages. > > Hm. Come to think of it, Johnny might not be aware of the dmesg > command or scrollback capabilities, making it all the more > important that only truly relevent information is spewed forth at > him. I think "Little Johnny" will be more interested in a login prompt than if his probe messages say "disabled" or whatever... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.