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Subject: Re: SoundBlaster Live! or PCI512 help
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On Friday 08 February 2002 09:27 pm, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 01:45:36AM -0600, Bob Giesen wrote:
> > On Friday 08 February 2002 12:18 am, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 08:00:02PM -0600, Bob Giesen wrote:
> > > >    I have a SoundBlaster PCI512 -- which, I've read, is
> > > > essentially the same as a Live! card.  I can't get mine to
> > > > make a sound in FBSD. (Sings like a canary in m$, so I know
> > > > it works...) If you're
> > >
> > > <snip> .. all the /dev stuff looks just fine
> > >
> > > >    Curiously, I just tried  a different command (about which
> > > > I know very little, so I might have used it wrong) and got an
> > > > odd error:
> > > >
> > > > # play /usr/X11R6/share/gnome/sounds/info.wav
> > > > sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device busy
> > >
> > > Try running the "play" command again *without* X running.
> > > It will fail with the error message you mentioned if your
> > > WM has grabbed /dev/dsp (for example artsd does with kde).
> >
> >    Quitting X did, indeed, take care of the error message.  I
> > tried "play" with several wav files and got no error messages --
> > or any other output (visual or audible), for that matter.  After
> > typing the command and pressing [Enter}, there was a brief delay
> > (~1-2 seconds) before I got my prompt back.  Presumably, "play"
> > chewed on the files in the interim, but all's still quiet...
>
> Mmm. I have done some more experiements, since installing
> 4.5-RELEASE I have not used sound much. It sems to work sometimes,
> and sometimes not. One strange thing is that startup sound from KDE
>  is not heard until you alt/F into another console and then it
> plays it !
>
> Does seem to be something wrong with the driver...

   Well, I figured I ought to give the KDE experiment a try, too -- 
but no dice.  I tried all my vty's and didn't hear anything.  I've 
been playing around with different wm's and haven't been able to make 
a peep with xmms and e-sound.

-- 
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On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Tim Radigan wrote:

> I'm kind of new to building the entire world, but for some reason, I
> keep running into some problems.  I get all the updates from CVSup,
> I basically read UPDATING twice (although I could be missing something)
> and when I do a 'make buildworld' it fails at this point:
> 
> [blah][blah][blah]../lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/bn/asm
> /bn-586.pl elf 386 > bn-586.cmt
> syntax error at
> /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/bn/asm/bn-5
> 86.pl line 116, near "))"
> Feb 9 14:27:46 home /kernel: pid 30554 (perl), uid 0: exited on signal
> 11 (core dumped)
> Segmentation fault - core dumped
> *** Error code 139
> Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> 
> I'm not sure why it's failing here, I'll try to run cvsup again, but any
> help would be appreciated.

In addition to the information you've provided, it would be useful
to know what version of FreeBSD you're running (the kernel especially,
thus uname -a) and what source version you got with cvsup (i.e., the
tag value, tag=RELENG_4 or whatever).

I have not had any problems with recent builds (quite a few on
different machines), but the builds have not been big jumps in terms
of versions.

	Annelise

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Your printer is neither a postscript nor a plaintext printer. You have a so
called Windows printers. This means that they don't have a processor on
board, and that all calculations neccesary for printing are done on your
computer.
What you need is a filter which translates postscript or plaintext into
something you printer understands. www.linuxprinting.org maintains a database
of available filters for different printers.
In your case you will need pnm2ppa, which is in the ports.

In case you use want to use LPD: install the port, adjust the printcap file
as in the pkg-comments and everything should work fine.

In case you want to use CUPS, don't forget to tell me what you did to get it
working.

Simon

On Saturday 09 February 2002 23:28, you wrote:
> I am setting up a standared paralell port printer on my FreeBSD system.
> (HP DeskJet 722c)  I'm not sure if its post-script of plain text, but i
> have tried both ways.  I cannot access it w/ lpttest > lpt0 or cat
> /printtest > lpt0.  /preinntest is a postscript file.  I believe i have set
> the print stuff up correctly in the kernel config.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff Jeter
>
> Kernel config:
> #
> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
> #
> # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
> # Kernel Configuration Files:
> #
> #    http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
> #
> # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
> # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
> # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
> # latest information.
> #
> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
> # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are
> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
> #
> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.34 2001/08/12 13:13:46
> joerg Exp $
>
> machine  i386
> cpu  I386_CPU
> cpu  I486_CPU
> cpu  I586_CPU
> cpu  I686_CPU
> ident  GENERIC
> maxusers 32
>
> #makeoptions DEBUG=-g  #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
>
> options  MATH_EMULATE  #Support for x87 emulation
> options  INET   #InterNETworking
> options  INET6   #IPv6 communications protocols
> options  FFS   #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
> options  FFS_ROOT  #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
> options  SOFTUPDATES  #Enable FFS soft updates support
> options  MFS   #Memory Filesystem
> options  MD_ROOT   #MD is a potential root device
> options  NFS   #Network Filesystem
> options  NFS_ROOT  #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
> options  MSDOSFS   #MSDOS Filesystem
> options  CD9660   #ISO 9660 Filesystem
> options  CD9660_ROOT  #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
> options  PROCFS   #Process filesystem
> options  COMPAT_43  #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
> options  SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
> options  UCONSOLE  #Allow users to grab the console
> options  USERCONFIG  #boot -c editor
> options  VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
> options  KTRACE   #ktrace(1) support
> options  SYSVSHM   #SYSV-style shared memory
> options  SYSVMSG   #SYSV-style message queues
> options  SYSVSEM   #SYSV-style semaphores
> options  P1003_1B  #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
> options  _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
> options  ICMP_BANDLIM  #Rate limit bad replies
> options  KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev
>
> # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
> #options  SMP   # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
> #options  APIC_IO   # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
>
> #Wine stuff
> options  USER_LDT
> options  SYSVSHM
> options  SYSVSEM
> options  SYSVMSG
>
> device  isa
> device  eisa
> device  pci
>
> # Floppy drives
> device  fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
> device  fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
> device  fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
> #
> # If you have a Toshiba Libretto with its Y-E Data PCMCIA floppy,
> # don't use the above line for fdc0 but the following one:
> #device  fdc0
>
> # ATA and ATAPI devices
> device  ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
> device  ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
> device  ata
> device  atadisk   # ATA disk drives
> device  atapicd   # ATAPI CDROM drives
> device  atapifd   # ATAPI floppy drives
> device  atapist   # ATAPI tape drives
> options  ATA_STATIC_ID  #Static device numbering
>
> # SCSI Controllers
> device  ahb  # EISA AHA1742 family
> device  ahc  # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
> device  amd  # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T))
> device  isp  # Qlogic family
> device  ncr  # NCR/Symbios Logic
> device  sym  # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
> options  SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
>     # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
>     # both sym and ncr are configured
>
> device  adv0 at isa?
> device  adw
> device  bt0 at isa?
> device  aha0 at isa?
> device  aic0 at isa?
>
> device  ncv  # NCR 53C500
> device  nsp  # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
> device  stg  # TMC 18C30/18C50
>
> # SCSI peripherals
> device  scbus  # SCSI bus (required)
> device  da  # Direct Access (disks)
> device  sa  # Sequential Access (tape etc)
> device  cd  # CD
> device  pass  # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
>
> # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
> device  asr  # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
> device  dpt  # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
> device  mly  # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
>
> # RAID controllers
> device  aac  # Adaptec FSA RAID, Dell PERC2/PERC3
> device  ida  # Compaq Smart RAID
> device  amr  # AMI MegaRAID
> device  mlx  # Mylex DAC960 family
> device  twe  # 3ware Escalade
>
> # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
> device  atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
> device  atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
> device  psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12
>
> device  vga0 at isa?
>
> # splash screen/screen saver
> pseudo-device splash
>
> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
> device  sc0 at isa? flags 0x100
>
> # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
> #device  vt0 at isa?
> #options  XSERVER   # support for X server on a vt console
> #options  FAT_CURSOR  # start with block cursor
> # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT
> lines #options  PCVT_SCANSET=2  # IBM keyboards are non-std
>
> # Floating point support - do not disable.
> device  npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
>
> # Power management support (see LINT for more options)
> device  apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management
>
> # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
> device  card
> device  pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
> device  pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable
>
> # Serial (COM) ports
> device  sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
> device  sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
> device  sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
> device  sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
>
> # Parallel port
> device  ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> device  ppbus  # Parallel port bus (required)
> device  lpt0  # Printer
> device  plip  # TCP/IP over parallel
> device  ppi  # Parallel port interface device
> device  vpo  # Requires scbus and da
>
>
> # PCI Ethernet NICs.
> device  de  # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
> device  txp  # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'')
> device  vx  # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
>
> # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
> # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these
> NICs! device  miibus  # MII bus support
> device  dc  # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
> device  fxp  # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
> device  pcn  # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 NICs
> device  rl  # RealTek 8129/8139
> device  sf  # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
> device  sis  # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
> device  ste  # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
> device  tl  # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
> device  tx  # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'')
> device  vr  # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
> device  wb  # Winbond W89C840F
> device  wx  # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
> device  xl  # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
>
> # ISA Ethernet NICs.
> # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus'
> device  ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
> device  ex
> device  ep
> device  fe0 at isa? port 0x300
> # Xircom Ethernet
> device  xe
> # PRISM I IEEE 802.11b wireless NIC.
> device  awi
> # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really
> # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attachment needed
> # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code.
> device  wi
> # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will
> # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP
> # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
> # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify
> # those parameters here.
> device  an
> # The probe order of these is presently determined by
> i386/isa/isa_compat.c. device  ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
> #device  le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
> device  lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
> device  cs0 at isa? port 0x300
> device  sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10
>
> # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate.
> pseudo-device loop  # Network loopback
> pseudo-device ether  # Ethernet support
> pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP
> pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP
> pseudo-device tun  # Packet tunnel.
> pseudo-device pty  # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
> pseudo-device md  # Memory "disks"
> pseudo-device gif  # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
> pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
>
> # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
> # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
> pseudo-device bpf  #Berkeley packet filter
>
> # USB support
> device  uhci  # UHCI PCI->USB interface
> device  ohci  # OHCI PCI->USB interface
> device  usb  # USB Bus (required)
> device  ugen  # Generic
> device  uhid  # "Human Interface Devices"
> device  ukbd  # Keyboard
> device  ulpt  # Printer
> device  umass  # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
> device  ums  # Mouse
> device  uscanner # Scanners
> # USB Ethernet, requires mii
> device  aue  # ADMtek USB ethernet
> device  cue  # CATC USB ethernet
> device  kue  # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
>
> #Sound Card
> device pcm

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I am trying to compile my kernel on a:
*AMD-k6-2 @ 550Mhz
*200mb ram
*20Gig HD
*Running FreeBSD 4.3 release

And it refuses to make, I can config and make depend but the make fails with 
an error from gcc (error varies). I have however managed to copy the 
config'ed kernel files and make them on my p166 also running the exact same 
version of FreeBSD

I have had the same problem in the past on the same PC and it caused my to 
got straight back to Windowz :( but now I'm more clueed up and hoping that 
someone can help me.

I while back someone told me that it might work if I typed:
config
../../KernelName
make NO_MODULES=yes depend
make NO_MODULES=yes
make install

Is that the right way to tell it to use no modules? He got it to work on the 
PC (Back then I really had no clue as to what was happening with FreeBSD) 
but now it doesn't seem to fix the problem...

I have the same problem when trying to compile other apps (eg gtk libs for 
use of xmms) wich once more work on the p166...

Anyone got any ideas???

Bye + thanks
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Cliff Sarginson wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 06:31:07PM -0500, C J Michaels wrote:
> > >
> > made any head way figguring this one out.  Do other accounts show 'hints'
> > also, or just yours?
> 
> As a test, I created a new user, this line appears at the bottom of 
> .profile.
> 
> [ -x /usr/games/fortune ] && /usr/games/fortune freebsd-tips
> 
> I am running 4.5-STABLE as of 24 hours ago.
> 
When you run adduser, you are asked if you want to install "dot"
files from /usr/share/skel (or elsewhere, if you choose to tell it
to use some other source of "dot" files).  They are installed in
the user's home dir as .profile, .cshrc, etc.

You can of course look at them; you could change them, but 
they will be changed to the latest version whenever you cvsup.

	Annelise 

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> We have a server crashing daily, and im not sure why. It seemed to
> > coincide with the addition of several SCSI disks connected to an
> ExtremeRAID
> > 1100. The server is running 4.5-STABLE as of about 3 days ago, but has
> > exhibited similar problems since version 4.3-RELEASE.
> >
> > Here is the output from gdb -k :
> >
> > Script started on Mon Feb  4 20:59:21 2002
> > /usr/src/sys/compile/Luke {1}>gdb -k
> > GNU gdb 4.18
> > Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you
> are
> > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
> > conditions.
> > Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
> > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for
> details.
> > This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd".
> > (kgdb) symbol-file kernel.debug
> > Reading symbols from kernel.debug...done.
> > (kgdb) exec-file /var/crash/kernel.0
> > (kgdb) core-file /var/crash/vmcore.0
> > IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x00387000
> > initial pcb at physical address 0x002eec80
> > panicstr: ffs_vfree: freeing free inode
> > panic messages:
> > ---
> > panic: ffs_vfree: freeing free inode
> >
> > syncing disks... 130 126 121 118 112 107 107 95 89 80 77 74 72 66 65 63 60
> > 60 50 48 47 45 41 41 34 30 29 28 26 23 20 18 16 15 14 12 9 7 5 4 2 2 2 2 2
> 2
> > 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
> > giving up on 2 buffers
> > Uptime: 1d1h53m57s
> > mlx0: flushing cache...done
> > mlxd0: detached
> > mlx1: flushing cache...done
> > mlxd1: detached
> > mlxd2: detached
> > mlxd3: detached
> >
> > dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 589824
> > dump ata0: resetting devices .. done
> > 512 511 510 509 508 507 506 505 504 503 502 501 500 499 498 497 496 495
> 494
> > 493 492 491 490 489 488 487 486 485 484 483 482 481 480 479 478 477 476
> 475
> > 474 473 472 471 470 469 468 467 466 465 464 463 462 461 460 459 458 457
> 456
> > 455 454 453 452 451 450 449 448 447 446 445 444 443 442 441 440 439 438
> 437
> > 436 435 434 433 432 431 430 429 428 427 426 425 424 423 422 421 420 419
> 418
> > 417 416 415 414 413 412 411 410 409 408 407 406 405 404 403 402 401 400
> 399
> > 398 397 396 395 394 393 392 391 390 389 388 387 386 385 384 383 382 381
> 380
> > 379 378 377 376 375 374 373 372 371 370 369 368 367 366 365 364 363 362
> 361
> > 360 359 358 357 356 355 354 353 352 351 350 349 348 347 346 345 344 343
> 342
> > 341 340 339 338 337 336 335 334 333 332 331 330 329 328 327 326 325 324
> 323
> > 322 321 320 319 318 317 316 315 314 313 312 311 310 309 308 307 306 305
> 304
> > 303 302 301 300 299 298 297 296 295 294 293 292 291 290 289 288 287 286
> 285
> > 284 283 282 281 280 279 278 277 276 275 274 273 272 271 270 269 268 267
> 266
> > 265 264 263 262 261 260 259 258 257 256 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248
> 247
> > 246 245 244 243 242 241 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229
> 228
> > 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210
> 209
> > 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191
> 190
> > 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172
> 171
> > 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153
> 152
> > 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134
> 133
> > 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115
> 114
> > 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94
> 93
> > 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68
> > 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43
> > 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18
> > 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
> > ---
> > #0  dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:474
> > 474  if (dumping++) {
> > (kgdb) backtrace
> > #0  dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:474
> > #1  0xc015f8a7 in boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:313
> > #2  0xc015fca1 in panic (fmt=0xc02acf71 "ffs_vfree: freeing free inode")
> >     at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:582
> > #3  0xc0221549 in ffs_freefile ()
> > #4  0xc02213d2 in ffs_vfree ()
> > #5  0xc022d7b1 in ufs_inactive (ap=0xd785ccbc) at
> > ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_inode.c:96
> > #6  0xc0232c71 in ufs_vnoperatefifo (ap=0xd785ccbc)
> >     at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2431
> > #7  0xc018d6b0 in vput (vp=0xd854b600) at ../../kern/vfs_subr.c:1638
> > #8  0xc0231863 in ufs_rename (ap=0xd785ce68) at
> > ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:1208
> > #9  0xc0232c71 in ufs_vnoperatefifo (ap=0xd785ce68)
> >     at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2431
> > #10 0xc0192263 in rename ()
> > #11 0xc0275749 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47,
> >       tf_edi = 75, tf_esi = 5241, tf_ebp = -1077939076, tf_isp
> = -679096364,
> >       tf_ebx = 134864144, tf_edx = -1077939296, tf_ecx = -1077939296,
> >       tf_eax = 128, tf_trapno = 0, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 672126368, tf_cs =
> > 31,
> >       tf_eflags = 518, tf_esp = -1077939432, tf_ss = 47})
> >     at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1157
> > #12 0xc0268e05 in Xint0x80_syscall ()
> > #13 0x805faa9 in ?? ()
> > #14 0x805f1c9 in ?? ()
> > ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
> > #15 0x805bde8 in ?? ()
> > #16 0x805b641 in ?? ()
> > #17 0x804a8d1 in ?? ()
> > #18 0x8049565 in ?? ()

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Hello,
I submitted a PR a while back for a small change to a kernel module that has
not yet surfaced in Stable .. that's ok, I am not complaining about
that.. but since I track STABLE, what is the easiest way to
automatically infiltrate my change (I am looking for a generic kind
of answer) when I cvsup (which I do once a week).

In this case, it is not such a big deal, since it is only 2 lines !
But I would like to know for reference how this can be dealt with
elegantly.

-- 
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Cliff



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On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 09:54:03AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> Hello,
> I submitted a PR a while back for a small change to a kernel module that has
> not yet surfaced in Stable .. that's ok, I am not complaining about
> that.. but since I track STABLE, what is the easiest way to
> automatically infiltrate my change (I am looking for a generic kind
> of answer) when I cvsup (which I do once a week).
> 
> In this case, it is not such a big deal, since it is only 2 lines !
> But I would like to know for reference how this can be dealt with
> elegantly.

Use cvsup to get a local copy of the whole repository, and then use cvs
to update your sources from your local repository.
Cvs knows how to deal with local modifications to the source.

This is the way most of the developers do it.  It requires a bit more
disk space for the repository but gives you a lot more flexibility.

(The whole repository is currently ~1.3GB.)


-- 
<Insert your favourite quote here.>
Erik Trulsson
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Mike writes:

> No, way before the hardware was inexpensive.
> There's a difference.

Point taken, although the net effect was the same.




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1) Where do I find inforation about current drivers?

a) I have an Intellipoint Optical USB mouse - PS/2 compatible. I can not =
get the mouse daemon or X to initialize the mouse. FreeBSD recocnizes the=
 USB mouse during installation, but I can not configure it.

b) I have a 3dfx VooDoo5 5500 PCI graphics card - the only driver listed =
is a VooDoo3 (generic). =20

2) How do I tell the OS where to look for the drivers once their located,=
 and how do I update the drivers?

These are probably very stupid questions, but the greatest amount of succ=
ess I've experience to date is the ls command (definately a newbie).

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On Friday 08 February 2002 05:50 pm, Matt Sykes wrote:
>  --- Bob Giesen <BobGiesen@earthlink.net> wrote: >    I have a
> SoundBlaster PCI512 -- which, I've read, is essentially
>
> > the same as a Live! card.  I can't get mine to make a sound in
> > FBSD.
> > (Sings like a canary in m$, so I know it works...)  If you're
> > familiar with getting either (PCI512 or Live!) card working and
> > have
> > spotted anything I've missed or screwed up, I'd love to hear from
> > you.  I have been searching the FBSD site and Googling the web
> > (oh,
>
> I have problems with my SB Live card.
>
> emu10k isn't working very well in FreeBSD (4.5-stable).
>
> Check out the problem reports, search for 'emu10k'.  I even
> followed up on one of them.
>
> As others have suggested esound works well -- in fact mp3s sound
> fairly good with xmms-esound (not great though).
>
> But wav files are cut off with popping noises, and without esound
> wav files are completely hosed.
>
> I hear -current has some or all of these problems solved though.

   I tried xmms 1.2.5 with the esound plugin... still, nothing.  (The 
esound that I have installed I just d/l'd from FreeBSD.org - 
v0.2.23).  I tried an mp3 and some wav files.
   I did find something curious...  When I opened the xmms 
Preferences dialog while running Gnome as a regular user, xmms froze; 
clicking anywhere in one of its windows caused my PC speaker (the 
tinny little thing inside the case -- not the ones I _want_ to hear) 
would beep.  My only recourse was to kill xmms.  If I opened the 
Preferences dialog as root, I had no problem.  I tried it without 
running Gnome and I had no problem setting preferences as either a 
regular user or root.  I think I'll post that little bit of info to 
the gnome-list mailing list.
   I'm beginning to wonder if there's a conflict or if I'm just 
missing something -- be it a file or a setting.
   Does any know that I should be able to make my PC512 work w/ FBSD? 
 (... or am I in uncharted waters?)  If so, what minimum files I 
should have for this to work?
   Does anyone know how I can make sure that something's not hogging 
some necessary resource (device or otherwise) when I want to play a 
sound?
   Any and all help, suggestions, and comments will be much 
appreciated.
Thanks, again,
Bob

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Hi,

I use imwheel-0.9.9 with FreeBSD R4.4 and R4.5 STABLE and it works fine,
not only for KDE.
Dit you have changed your /etc/XF86Config file:

...
Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "auto"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/mouse"
        Option      "Buttons" "5"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection
....

success,

Ben Stroeken



Jeff Jeter wrote:

> Sorry about posting so many questions in 1 day.  I have just now had a
> chance to work on the system. How do i program the thub button on my
> mouse in KDE? Results of my attempts:I tried imwheel, but when i run
> the installed port (0.9.9) it says "expected 3 args, got 1, in
> config".  What do i do about this?  When i try to build 1.0.0pre1 it
> says "Makefile" line 211: Need an operator.  Line 211 is
> "clean-binPROGRAMS:" Thanks,Jeff Jeter

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Hi,
<p>I use imwheel-0.9.9 with FreeBSD R4.4 and R4.5 STABLE and it works fine,
not only for KDE.
<br>Dit you have changed your /etc/XF86Config file:
<p>...
<br>Section "InputDevice"
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Identifier&nbsp; "Mouse0"
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Driver&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
"mouse"
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Option&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
"Protocol" "auto"
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Option&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
"Device" "/dev/mouse"
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Option&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
"Buttons" "5"
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<p>success,
<p>Ben Stroeken
<br>&nbsp;
<br>&nbsp;
<p>Jeff Jeter wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Sorry
about posting so many questions in 1 day.&nbsp; I have just now had a chance
to work on the system.</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>How
do i program the thub button on my mouse in KDE?</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Results
of my attempts:</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I tried imwheel,
but when i run the installed port (0.9.9) it says "expected 3 args, got
1, in config".&nbsp; What do i do about this?&nbsp; When i try to build
1.0.0pre1 it says "Makefile" line 211: Need an operator.&nbsp; Line 211
is "clean-binPROGRAMS:"</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Thanks,</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Jeff
Jeter</font></font></blockquote>

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On Saturday 09 February 2002 09:54 pm, Jeff Jeter wrote:
> Sorry about posting so many questions in 1 day.  I have just now had a
> chance to work on the system.
>
> How do i program the thub button on my mouse in KDE?
>
> Results of my attempts:
> I tried imwheel, but when i run the installed port (0.9.9) it says
> "expected 3 args, got 1, in config".  What do i do about this?  When i try
> to build 1.0.0pre1 it says "Makefile" line 211: Need an operator.  Line 211
> is "clean-binPROGRAMS:"

I don't know about that, but have you tried the KDE control center first?

It has controls for a mouse wheel, which suggests to me that it would know 
how to use one.  (Of course I'm only guess that's what  "thub button" is . . 
.)

Control center -> peripherals -> mouse

>
> Thanks,
> Jeff Jeter

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Hello everyone.

I cvsuped to the latest current branch.
I then did a "make buildworld" which went great.

Now when i do a "make installworld" i get the following error

******** start error*****

===> secure/lib/libtelnet
rm -f /usr/lib/libtelnet.so.2.0
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libtelnet.a /usr/lib
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libtelnet_p.a /usr/lib
===> secure/lib/libcrypto
mkdir -p openssl
mkdir:No such file or directory
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib.
*** Error code 1

******** end error*****

My cvsup file downloads everything from the server.

This problem really puzzles me.

If anyone could help i would be so very happy
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Hiya all,

Please excuse me and if I sound ignorant but I am really trying to get
my head around soft updates and UNIX (especially FreeBSD) file systems
in general. I think the discussion on the topic so far has been very
good and for everyone's sake (and mine) here are a few things I've
gathered so far:

1. Soft updates is a Good Thing(TM). According to the tuning manpage it
gauruntees file system consistency but along with write caching (enabled
in FreeBSD 4.4+ by default) can lead to data loss. At least to me this
seemed contradictory at first but I think this is what it means (and
please correct me if I am mistaken as I have not actually run tests to
prove any this this yet): if you have soft updates enabled and your
system is shut down uncleanly (ie power failure or crash) an fsck will
be run upon reboot but there will be no metadata or data corruption (
the fsck is only to retreive lost space), however you may lose the
actual data written within the last minute or so.

Please add to this "knowledge base" if you have something you know to be
true (not guessing). I would really like to here from someone
authoratitive on the matter (ie one of the FreeBSD developers who has
worked on the actual soft updates code etc....)  

Thanks for your patience everyone.... :-)


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On Sunday 03 February 2002 09:19 am, Sam wrote:
> I'd appreciate some clarification about the behavior of the softupdates
> as it relates to disk writes.  Situation:  Have noticed that during an
> ftp session with relatively high (150 Kbs) data stream, I notice after
> what appears to be a short burst, i.e., 130 packets (viewed with systat
> -vm) there is a considerable delay before the next batch.  Graphicaly
> viewing thruput with xsysinfo, I watch the disk write for each "batch",
> but while the write is happening, there appears to be a significant
> delay before the next packet stream is graphicaly displayed.  Is this a
> function of softupdates, combined with the fact that the ATA drive has
> to be serviced by the processor, and the switcher can't service two
> things at once, or what.  How often does the data that needs to be
> written actually get written to the disk, or do I misunderstand how
> softupdates works?  Essentially, what it appears to me that is
> happening, is the packet stream is "suspended" while the disk is being
> written to.  Is that a correct assumption?  Since softupdates is on by
> default now, what damage would I do if I turned it off?  Is that to my
> best interest?

softupdates will "batch up" writes to the disk that otherwise would be done 
one at a time.  So the total time taken up by disk writes shouldn't be any 
larger, and if you turn off write caching it should actually be lots smaller 
by dint of the batching up.  If you have write caching turned on (and I do 
not recommend this practice with typical IDE disks!), then it should be the 
same speed either way, just batched up vs. spread out.

When interspersed with network i/o, it is possible that your total throughput 
would be faster if you turn them, if the timing is such that the disk i/o 
happens when the network i/o is waiting anyway, and vice-versa, but in 
practice it seems unlikely that the timing will always work out quite so 
conveniently.

Most likely it would be the same or slower if you turn off softupdates, as 
you get just as much "drag" from the disk i/o, but in a less "bursty" fashion.

But the only way to know is to do repeated before-and-after testing.  If you 
do, please post the results back here.  It should prove interesting either 
way.


>
> Thanks..
>
> Sam

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Thanks for the reply. I went ahead and tried the 'dd' approach using two
identical 10GB HDs on an experimental box where I wasn't concerned about
the result just to see what would happen. After more than two hours of
copying, I decided to abort the process because 10GB is a pretty small HD
and it would be a very long process to use on the bigger HDs.

Of course the abort trashed the 2nd HD but fixed it with FDISK. Back to the
drawing board, perhaps with some of your other suggestions. I already use
tar....

At 06:42 AM 2.10.2002 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>jacks@sage-american.com wrote:
>
>> On a FBSD box (4.5-stable) with two identical HDs and in the abscence of a
>> good IDE HD mirror solution in pursuit of making an exact clone of HD0 to
>> HD1, I thought I would give "dd" a try. I've seen several postings about
>> the syntax to use and I'm not completely clear about the "bs=0000"
>> parameter to use, if one is used at all. I seen:
>>
>> dd bs=4096k if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1
>> or...
>> dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=8192
>>
>> or... that the bs should be set to 2048 for "faster" copy.
>>
>> Questions:
>> 1) Will the above make an exact clone of identical HD0 to HD1..??
>
>Yes.  All of the above will create an identical copy of disk ad0 to ad1,
>copying disk sectors one by one.
>
>> 2) Should the the "bs" be used..??
>
>Changing the bs= parameter makes dd(1) use different 'block size', or
>'buffer' if you prefer this term.  Larger buffers will probably give you
>better throughput and copy the entire disk a bit faster.
>
>> 3) If "bs" should be use, how do I determine which one: 2048, 4096,
8192...??
>
>This I can not answer.  Perhaps some more knowledgable hackers will fill my
>gaps here.
>
>> 4) should bs be used as in #1 or #2 or both okay..??
>>
>> I suspect this can screw up the HD if not careful.... so any expert tips
>> appreciated.
>
>Well, yes and no.  Copying from the wrong disk TO the wrong disk will
>certainly get you in trouble.  Other than that dd(1) can do what you want.
>
>I would try to avoid dd though, since it can cause problems if the disks
>are not identical.  Think about copying the data of a 10 Gb disk to the
>empty area of a 20 Gb disk.  Since dd(1) knows nothing about disk
>geometries and such funky stuff, it will promptly overwrite the MBR of the
>destination disk with the geometry information of the source disk :(
>
>You'll probably find it easier to backup/restore with dump(8) and
>restore(8), or even use pax/cpio/tar to copy the data to the destination
>disk after partitioning, labelling and formatting it properly.
>
>
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Hi all....

I have a FreeBSD 4.5 system running multiple jails (7 actually) that
will run each run a particular application (apache, sendmail, MySQL
etc), the host system runs no services (apart from SSH for administraion
and NTP). My reason for this "viritual machine" type of architecture are
many including:

1. I can easily move one of these virtual machines (jail) to a "real"
seperate machine if load gets too high

2. The server is overkill for handling only one application and can
easily handle all 7 applications at this stage.

3. Security. I have each service segregated, this mitigates the effects
of a compromised service on one of those machines.

4. Easier backups and hardware portability. I just tar and gzip the
entire jail file system and can easily move it to different hardware if
I need to (since only the host has to worry about kernels, drivers etc.)

At this stage I have not put the system into production, I am still
testing and looking for intelligent feedback from the list, especially
in regard to file system partitioning for such a configuration. 

To me it make the most sense to have a single large / partition (and
swap ofcourse) for the following reasons:

1. I don't know which application will have the most disk requirements
at this stage and am afraid of under allocating space. 

2. simplicity

3. I may need to add or remove jails

The only valid negative point I have seen to this approach so far is
/var/log filling up and effectivly bringing about a denial of service.
Is there some way to limit the size of the /var/log directory? It really
doesnt seem practical to me to create 7 seperate /var/log partitions (
one for each jail) and then what if I add or remove a jail?

If anyone had experience with this kind of configuration advice would be
greatly appreciated......


such an approach has been negat

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UCTC Sysadmin <ecsd@transbay.net> types:
> The &^&*%& 4.5-RELEASE /stand/sysinstall : configure, setup, [X] Linux coredumps
> consistently, so I can't use it to install Linux compatibiltiy.
> What does that do, so that I can do it by hand, since I must.

# cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base
# make install

then add 'linux_enable="YES"' to /etc/rc.conf.

Note that there are apparently three different versions of the
linux_base port at this time. The appear to be vs. 6.1, 6.2 and 7.0 of
whichever distro the linux base tracks.

> Also, when I go to ftp.freebsd.org pud/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.5-RELEASE/floppies
> and fetch mfsroot.flp, that comes up with a default system to install of
> 4.3-RELEASE, not 4.5-RELEASE.

You need to submit a pr about that one.

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Erik Trulsson <ertr1013@student.uu.se> types:
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 09:54:03AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I submitted a PR a while back for a small change to a kernel module that has
> > not yet surfaced in Stable .. that's ok, I am not complaining about
> > that.. but since I track STABLE, what is the easiest way to
> > automatically infiltrate my change (I am looking for a generic kind
> > of answer) when I cvsup (which I do once a week).
> Use cvsup to get a local copy of the whole repository, and then use cvs
> to update your sources from your local repository.
> Cvs knows how to deal with local modifications to the source.

I haven't tried it for FreeBSD, but for other projects using cvs, I
don't need to keep a local copy of the repository to do this. I just
point cvs at the remote repository, and then let "cvs update" do it's
thing. It seems to work fine, updating files that I haven't changed,
and trying to merge files that have changed in both places.

Does keeping the local repository help in some way?

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BSD Freak <bsd-freak@mbox.com.au> types:
> Hiya all,
> 
> Please excuse me and if I sound ignorant but I am really trying to get
> my head around soft updates and UNIX (especially FreeBSD) file systems
> in general. I think the discussion on the topic so far has been very
> good and for everyone's sake (and mine) here are a few things I've
> gathered so far:
> 
> 1. Soft updates is a Good Thing(TM). According to the tuning manpage it
> gauruntees file system consistency but along with write caching (enabled
> in FreeBSD 4.4+ by default) can lead to data loss. At least to me this
> seemed contradictory at first but I think this is what it means (and
> please correct me if I am mistaken as I have not actually run tests to
> prove any this this yet): if you have soft updates enabled and your
> system is shut down uncleanly (ie power failure or crash) an fsck will
> be run upon reboot but there will be no metadata or data corruption (
> the fsck is only to retreive lost space), however you may lose the
> actual data written within the last minute or so.

Your last statement is true of softupdates with drives that are
operating properly. If the drives aren't operating properly, all bets
are off. One way to insure that the drives operate properly is to
disable write caching. This tends to slow IDE drives down
considerably.

The real problem here is that there is a high degree of variability in
how well IDE drives follow the spec. If the drive follows the spec
properly, all should be well and good. But not all of them do, and in
extreme cases will tell you data is on the disk and then delay
actually writing it indefinitely. So when you enable write caching on
an IDE drive, you don't know how much risk you are exposing your data
to.

Personally, I run my IDE drives with write caching enabled and soft
updates - that doesn't really add much danger once you turn on write
caching - and make sure that the critical data is backed up on SCSI
drives.

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I've been wondering about this.
The last few times I've installed the staroffice port, I've had to
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Does anyone know the reason that these files aren't found by the
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On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 08:14:02AM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Erik Trulsson <ertr1013@student.uu.se> types:
> > On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 09:54:03AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I submitted a PR a while back for a small change to a kernel module that has
> > > not yet surfaced in Stable .. that's ok, I am not complaining about
> > > that.. but since I track STABLE, what is the easiest way to
> > > automatically infiltrate my change (I am looking for a generic kind
> > > of answer) when I cvsup (which I do once a week).
> > Use cvsup to get a local copy of the whole repository, and then use cvs
> > to update your sources from your local repository.
> > Cvs knows how to deal with local modifications to the source.
> 
> I haven't tried it for FreeBSD, but for other projects using cvs, I
> don't need to keep a local copy of the repository to do this. I just
> point cvs at the remote repository, and then let "cvs update" do it's
> thing. It seems to work fine, updating files that I haven't changed,
> and trying to merge files that have changed in both places.

Yes, that works too.

> 
> Does keeping the local repository help in some way?

Using a local repository is normally faster than using a remote one.
It also helps reduce the load on the remote server.

There is also the fact that while there are numerous servers around the
world allowing you to update using cvsup there are only a few allowing
anonymous cvs access.

Having a local copy of the repository also allows you to check the cvs
logs and comparing different versions of files without having to be
online.


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I have question as:
If linux have printtool, Solaris have admintool, how
about freeBSD?

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On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 09:38:39AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
> I've been wondering about this.
> The last few times I've installed the staroffice port, I've had to
> manually hunt through search engines to find the second file that
> it requires (this time it was 109939-02.tar.Z).
> Does anyone know the reason that these files aren't found by the
> make process?
> 
Nope.
This very morning I installed staroffice (without ADABAS) without 
any problem (except it needs to be able to connect to an X Server
towards the end, but that is easily solved).

Port staroffice52, ports current as of 24 hours ago.

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On Sunday 10 February 2002 09:41 am, saifuddin Abd. Salam wrote:
> I have question as:
> If linux have printtool, Solaris have admintool, how
> about freeBSD?

FreeBSD has vi.  What else do you need? :-)

No, seriously, there are a number of tools to help with various tasks on the 
ports, but no pretty GUI tool.  I happen to like that, but if you don't, 
you're welcome to write one.

What FreeBSD *does* have, which I find more elegant than the Linux approach 
(I've never used Solaris in an adiministrative capacity) is the ability to 
use the *same* program for initial installation and for later system 
maintenance.

Just type

/stand/sysinstall

and go to the configuration section.  You can do common administraive tasks 
there, and in exactly the same way that you do during initial installation. 
That said, as I've used FreeBSD more & more I use that approach less & less.

It's not a GUI, but it is a curses-based interface that guides you throught 
the common administrative tasks.

It is *not* as comprehensive as some of the Linux administrative tools; for 
other tasks, check out the FreeBSD Handbook (at the freebsd site) and follow 
the directions there.  To me this is an advantage (it's one reason I switched 
from Linux--it was getting too user friendly [== obscures what's really going 
on] for me . . . 

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>
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Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 09:38:39AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
> 
>>I've been wondering about this.
>>The last few times I've installed the staroffice port, I've had to
>>manually hunt through search engines to find the second file that
>>it requires (this time it was 109939-02.tar.Z).
>>Does anyone know the reason that these files aren't found by the
>>make process?
>>
>>
> Nope.
> This very morning I installed staroffice (without ADABAS) without 
> any problem (except it needs to be able to connect to an X Server
> towards the end, but that is easily solved).
> 
> Port staroffice52, ports current as of 24 hours ago.

Right after I posted this I cvsuped my ports and tried again, this time
it was looking for 109939-03.tar.Z and was able to find it.
My previous ports tree wasn't _that_ old (from some time in December,
I believe)
Apparently, what's happening is the patch file is being updated, and
the download sites aren't hanging on to the old patch files.  An
authoritative answer would be nice, but without out it, I guess I'm
happy with that assumption.


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Brian T.Schellenberger wrote:
> On Sunday 10 February 2002 09:41 am, saifuddin Abd. Salam wrote:
> 
>>I have question as:
>>If linux have printtool, Solaris have admintool, how
>>about freeBSD?
>>
> 
> FreeBSD has vi.  What else do you need? :-)

ee or emacs, I can't stand vi (ducks the incomming flames ...)

> No, seriously, there are a number of tools to help with various tasks on the 
> ports, but no pretty GUI tool.  I happen to like that, but if you don't, 
> you're welcome to write one.

One excellent, overall tool is webmin.  It seems to integrate nicely with
FreeBSD, and since it works with most UNIX variants, you can train IT personel
on it and then install it on all your UNIXish machines.

> What FreeBSD *does* have, which I find more elegant than the Linux approach 
> (I've never used Solaris in an adiministrative capacity) is the ability to 
> use the *same* program for initial installation and for later system 
> maintenance.
> 
> Just type
> 
> /stand/sysinstall
> 
> and go to the configuration section.  You can do common administraive tasks 
> there, and in exactly the same way that you do during initial installation. 
> That said, as I've used FreeBSD more & more I use that approach less & less.

I agree completely, for most admin tasks sysinstall will walk you through it,
however, once you know the system, sysinstall is far klunkier than the command
line tools.

> It is *not* as comprehensive as some of the Linux administrative tools; for 
> other tasks, check out the FreeBSD Handbook (at the freebsd site) and follow 
> the directions there.  To me this is an advantage (it's one reason I switched 
> from Linux--it was getting too user friendly [== obscures what's really going 
> on] for me . . . 

I agree here as well.  A slightly related story is the number of NT server installations
that I've fixed because the dumbass who installed it didn't really know what he was
doing, but just clicked around until it seemed to work.


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Hi,
we have open position at Intel Israel for Unix Guru. do you have any
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pls contact us
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Shawn Halloran wrote:
> 
> 1) Where do I find inforation about current drivers?

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.5R/hardware.html


> a) I have an Intellipoint Optical USB mouse - PS/2 compatible. I can not 
> get the mouse daemon or X to initialize the mouse. FreeBSD recocnizes 
> the USB mouse during installation, but I can not configure it.

If you look through dmesg output, what device is the mouse using? (i.e.
ps2 mice generally use /dev/psm0)
Make sure that you configured the proper device when setting up your mouse
in X.

> b) I have a 3dfx VooDoo5 5500 PCI graphics card - the only driver listed 
> is a VooDoo3 (generic).

That may be the best you can do.  Vid cards are supported by XFree, so you'll
find more informatin about what is supported at the xfree.org site:
http://www.xfree.org/cardlist.html

> 2) How do I tell the OS where to look for the drivers once their 
> located, and how do I update the drivers?

"drivers" are integrated into the base system.  To update drivers,
update FreeBSD.  Use cvsup as described here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/synching.html

If you need a "driver" that isn't installed by default, you'll need to
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> These are probably very stupid questions, but the greatest amount of 
> success I've experience to date is the /ls/ command (definately a newbie).

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Nofar, Alvit wrote:
> Hi,
> we have open position at Intel Israel for Unix Guru. do you have any
> information about relevant candidates or ways to get to such candidates?
> are there any possibilities to advertise on the website?
> pls contact us
> thx
> Alvit
> Alvit Nofar
> Hiring team
> Intel
> # 972-8-666-6626
> fax# 972-8-6664066
> alvit.nofar@intel.com


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--- pirat sriyotha <makhamus@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hi sirs,
> 
> apologize me for disturbing this list but i really
> need your help. i've installed mysql323-server a few
> minutes ago and restarted my 4.5-stable FreeBSD box.
> 
> once i enter command mysqladmin -u root -p password
> `newpassword', i got and error that says
> 
> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
> error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost'
> (Using password: YES)'
> 
> i entered this command both from plain user and
> super
> user with the same error.
> 
> anyone hints are appreciated.
> 
> please cc to me too.
> 
> with best regards,
> psr

Eliminate the -p in your command line:

mysqladmin -uroot password "new_password"

The -p prompts for an existing password; thus, the
error message.

Best of luck,

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On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 09:50:31PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote:
> stan <stanb@awod.com> types:
> > On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 03:36:24PM +1300, Jonathan Chen wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 07:30:06PM -0500, stan wrote:
> > > >=20
> > > > With nothing but the basic filesystems (/ /usr /var) mounted, if I =
run
> > > > "perodic daily" my machine crahse, reliably! It's a jernel trap 12,=
 if
> > > > I caught the message that flashed by on the screen corectly.
> > > >=20
> > > > How can I trap exactly wat's crashing this machine?
> > >=20
> > > Why don't you run a kernel build, if that crashes your machine as
> > > well, I'd suspect h/w problems; probably memory.
> >=20
> > Make buildworld, and buildkernel run without triggering this panic.
> >=20
> > How can I further diagnose this problem?
>=20
> First, rebuild and reinstall your kernel with the config method, using
> "config -g MYKERNEL" in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf - assuming it's a 386
> architecture machine - and install the resulting kernel.
>=20
> Now make sure you have a swap device that's has at least 64K more
> space than you have memory, then set set dumpdev to that device in
> /etc/rc.conf. If you don't have enough room to hold a core image and
> kernel code on /var/crash, you might want to set dumpdir as well.
>=20
> Now panic the system. As it comes back up, you should get a message
> about "saving core image" and it will count down to 0. If you then
> follow the instructions in the Handbook on debugging kernel problems,
> you should be able to pinpoint the exact line in the kernel that's
> causing the problem, along with a stack trace of how it got there.

Sorry to bug you about this, but I _reallly_ need to get this machine back
where I can depend on it. Reliably crashing once a day is not aceptabe
and I've been working on it full time for several days, with no  results ye=
t.

Following your advice, I wne to /usr/src/sys/i386/conf, did config -g BLACK.
Then I went to ../../compile/BLACK, and did make depend, make, make install.

Then I put the following lines in /etc/rc.conf


dumpdev=3D"/dev/ad0s1b"		# Device name to crashdump to (or NO).
dumpdir=3D"/usr/crash"	# Directory where crash dumps are to be stored

Then I ran "periodic daily" which relably panics my machine.
The system did appear to write the kernel image to the sawp space.

On the way up it said reboot after panic page fault, and wrote 3 files
to /usr/crash.

I've looked at the developers docs on runing the debuger, and also read
over a message in the list that was just posted abbout this.

Then I ran gdb -k and this is what I got.


Script started on Sun Feb 10 11:21:24 2002
black# gdb -k=0D
GNU gdb 4.18
Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain condition=
s.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd".
(kgdb) symbol-file kernel-debu=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08.debug
Reading symbols from kernel.debug...done.
(kgdb) exec-file /usr/crash/kernel.0
(kgdb) core-file /usr/crash/vmcore.0
IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x003b5000
initial pcb at physical address 0x0030ede0
panicstr: page fault
panic messages:
---
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address	=3D 0x0
fault code		=3D supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer	=3D 0x8:0x0
stack pointer	        =3D 0x10:0xe49f6ea8
frame pointer	        =3D 0x10:0xe49f6ebc
code segment		=3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
			=3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags	=3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0
current process		=3D 419 (ipfw)
interrupt mask		=3D none
trap number		=3D 12
panic: page fault

syncing disks... 41 1=20
done
Uptime: 14m13s

dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 1579136
dump ata0: resetting devices .. done
767 766 765 764 763 762 761 760 759 758 757 756 755 754 753 752 751 750 749=
 748 747 746 745 744 743 742 741 740 739 738 737 736 735 734 733 732 731 73=
0 729 728 727 726 725 724 723 722 721 720 719 718 717 716 715 714 713 712 7=
11 710 709 708 707 706 705 704 703 702 701 700 699 698 697 696 695 694 693 =
692 691 690 689 688 687 686 685 684 683 682 681 680 679 678 677 676 675 674=
 673 672 671 670 669 668 667 666 665 664 663 662 661 660 659 658 657 656 65=
5 654 653 652 651 650 649 648 647 646 645 644 643 642 641 640 639 638 637 6=
36 635 634 633 632 631 630 629 628 627 626 625 624 623 622 621 620 619 618 =
617 616 615 614 613 612 611 610 609 608 607 606 605 604 603 602 601 600 599=
 598 597 596 595 594 593 592 591 590 589 588 587 586 585 584 583 582 581 58=
0 579 578 577 576 575 574 573 572 571 570 569 568 567 566 565 564 563 562 5=
61 560 559 558 557 556 555 554 553 552 551 550 549 548 547 546 545 544 543 =
542 541 540 539 538 537 536 535 534 533 532 531 530 529 528 527 526 525 524=
 523 522 521 520 519 518 517 516 515 514 513 512 511 510 509 508 507 506 50=
5 504 503 502 501 500 499 498 497 496 495 494 493 492 491 490 489 488 487 4=
86 485 484 483 482 481 480 479 478 477 476 475 474 473 472 471 470 469 468 =
467 466 465 464 463 462 461 460 459 458 457 456 455 454 453 452 451 450 449=
 448 447 446 445 444 443 442 441 440 439 438 437 436 435 434 433 432 431 43=
0 429 428 427 426 425 424 423 422 421 420 419 418 417 416 415 414 413 412 4=
11 410 409 408 407 406 405 404 403 402 401 400 399 398 397 396 395 394 393 =
392 391 390 389 388 387 386 385 384 383 382 381 380 379 378 377 376 375 374=
 373 372 371 370 369 368 367 366 365 364 363 362 361 360 359 358 357 356 35=
5 354 353 352 351 350 349 348 347 346 345 344 343 342 341 340 339 338 337 3=
36 335 334 333 332 331 330 329 328 327 326 325 324 323 322 321 320 319 318 =
317 316 315 314 313 312 311 310 309 308 307 306 305 304 303 302 301 300 299=
 298 297 296 295 294 293 292 291 290 289 288 287 286 285 284 283 282 281 28=
0 279 278 277 276 275 274 273 272 271 270 269 268 267 266 265 264 263 262 2=
61 260 259 258 257 256 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 =
242 241 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224=
 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 20=
5 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 1=
86 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 =
167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149=
 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 13=
0 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 1=
11 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 9=
0 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 6=
5 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 4=
0 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 1=
5 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0=20
---
#0  dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:485
485		if (dumping++) {
(kgdb) backtrace
#0  dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:485
#1  0xc0162e9f in boot (howto=3D256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:314
#2  0xc016328c in poweroff_wait (junk=3D0xc02c9fcc, howto=3D-1070818577)
    at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:593
#3  0xc02804ce in trap_fatal (frame=3D0xe49f6e68, eva=3D0)
    at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:956
#4  0xc02801a1 in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xe49f6e68, usermode=3D0, eva=3D0)
    at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:849
#5  0xc027fd8b in trap (frame=3D{tf_fs =3D 16, tf_es =3D 16, tf_ds =3D 16,=
=20
      tf_edi =3D -459313392, tf_esi =3D -546074240, tf_ebp =3D -459313476,=
=20
      tf_isp =3D -459313516, tf_ebx =3D -532238656, tf_edx =3D 0,=20
      tf_ecx =3D -459313392, tf_eax =3D 0, tf_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =3D 0, =
tf_eip =3D 0,=20
      tf_cs =3D 8, tf_eflags =3D 66178, tf_esp =3D -1071947667, tf_ss =3D -=
459313392})
    at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:448
#6  0x0 in ?? ()
(kgdb) quit
black# ^D=08=08exit

Script done on Sun Feb 10 11:25:31 2002

This does not seem to make sense to me, how about you?



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I upgraded jde-emacs21 at home with portupgrade -rR and that upgraded
automatically XFree86-4 to the new version in the port, whereas the same
upgrade at work (with an outdated XFree86-4 too) did upgrade just jde...
both port trees are up to date, why that difference? How upgrading jde
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 07:56:53 -0600  jacks@sage-american.com wrote:
 +------------------
 | Thanks for the reply. I went ahead and tried the 'dd' approach using two
 | identical 10GB HDs on an experimental box where I wasn't concerned about
 | the result just to see what would happen. After more than two hours of
 | copying, I decided to abort the process because 10GB is a pretty small HD
 | and it would be a very long process to use on the bigger HDs.
 | 
 | Of course the abort trashed the 2nd HD but fixed it with FDISK. Back to the
 | drawing board, perhaps with some of your other suggestions. I already use
 | tar....
 +------------------

using DD to clone disk drives has the advantage that it does not depend on
the drive archetecture.  It has the disadvantage that it copys every byte
on the disk.  
An approach that combines disklabel, newfs and dump can work well.

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Hello!

I have got telnet running now, by uncommenting it from the /etc/inetd.conf

However, as I explained in another message, when I do telnetting from a Windows machine in the LAN 
to my FreeBSD server, I get an enourmous delay after I filled in the login screen (user, password) 
and hit enter. That is, the telnet login screen pops up immediatly, it is the loggin in that takes 
so long. I followed the suggestion below of Marco and checked the Server  name and IP in both 
/etc/hosts and the c:\windows\hosts file. These lines seems to be OK:
192.168.1.3			delta.local.galileo.or.cr delta

I also did a nslookup, once within the FreeBSD server:
./nslookup 192.168.1.3 #This is my Server
$ nslookup
Default Server:  LANmodem.local.galileo.or.cr
Address:  192.168.1.20

> exit
$ nslookup 192.168.1.3
Server:  LANmodem.local.galileo.or.cr
Address:  192.168.1.20

Name:    delta.local.galileo.or.cr
Address:  192.168.1.3   

Also for the Windows machine:
$ nslookup 192.168.1.2 #This is the LAN Windows workstation
Server:  LANmodem.local.galileo.or.cr
Address:  192.168.1.20

Name:    tulin.local.galileo.or.cr
Address:  192.168.1.2  

Any ideas what is happening here?

Many thanks in advance!
-brt
>> 
>> FreeBSD is trying to do a reverse DNS lookup on the IP address of your
>> windows machine.  Add it to your DNS records, or to your /etc/hots file.
>> 
>> Marco Radzinschi




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I'd like to delete all my /usr/obj files to free up space, but if I do, 
I think I may have a problem:

 > uname -a
FreeBSD dianed.com 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #1: Sun Feb 10 09:21:19 
PST 2002     wdamon@dianed.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386

I used the following to get into this situation:
cd /usr/src
# generate intermediate build files necessary for building a custom kernel
make buildworld

# build and install custom kernel
make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL

# reboot system with new kernel
shutdown -r now

The kernel built without error, boots and works great, I would just like 
to get rid of all those intermediate build files but I'm hesitant to b/c 
of the output of 'uname -a'.

Any advice anyone might have would certainly be appreciated.

thanks for your time,
-Will



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On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 10:11:02AM -0800, Will Damon wrote:
> I'd like to delete all my /usr/obj files to free up space, but if I do, 
> I think I may have a problem:
> 
>  > uname -a
> FreeBSD dianed.com 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #1: Sun Feb 10 09:21:19 
> PST 2002     wdamon@dianed.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386

You can rm the stuff in /usr/obj. Since you've already run your
installworld, if you choose to rebuild your kernel again, you can use
the "config KERNEL && cd ../../compile/KERNEL && make depend ...."
method.
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Hi,


You should do a make installworld and use mergemaster,
after that you can clean up your /usr/obj directory.

If you really don't have any disk space left.
You have to clean up, move some user data or
maybe zip or backup data. (which is recommented)


greetings,

Ben Stroeken



Will Damon wrote:

> I'd like to delete all my /usr/obj files to free up space, but if I do,
> I think I may have a problem:
>
>  > uname -a
> FreeBSD dianed.com 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #1: Sun Feb 10 09:21:19
> PST 2002     wdamon@dianed.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386
>
> I used the following to get into this situation:
> cd /usr/src
> # generate intermediate build files necessary for building a custom kernel
> make buildworld
>
> # build and install custom kernel
> make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
> make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
>
> # reboot system with new kernel
> shutdown -r now
>
> The kernel built without error, boots and works great, I would just like
> to get rid of all those intermediate build files but I'm hesitant to b/c
> of the output of 'uname -a'.
>
> Any advice anyone might have would certainly be appreciated.
>
> thanks for your time,
> -Will
>
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<br>&nbsp;
<p>You should do a make installworld and use mergemaster,
<br>after that you can clean up your /usr/<font size=+1>obj directory.</font><font size=+1></font>
<p><font size=+1>If you really don't have any disk space left.</font>
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<p>Will Damon wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I'd like to delete all my /usr/obj files to free
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<p>I used the following to get into this situation:
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<p># reboot system with new kernel
<br>shutdown -r now
<p>The kernel built without error, boots and works great, I would just
like
<br>to get rid of all those intermediate build files but I'm hesitant to
b/c
<br>of the output of 'uname -a'.
<p>Any advice anyone might have would certainly be appreciated.
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Everything was working just fine last night, I installed dgen (from inside
of KDE 2.2.2_x, Konsole), ssh'd to my box at work and worked on that
machine until the wee hours of this morning. All was well.

This morning I booted, ran startx, built and installed xmame and kmamerun.
This being a dual-boot Dell C600 laptop, (and my mame roms were on the
Windows partition), I mount_msdos /dev/ad0s3 /mnt, and using Konqueror,
copied the roms from that FS to the appropriate location for xmame.

I exited KDE (and X) su'd, and did an adduser for my son who wanted to
play the games.  I exited and he logged on, but he was dropped to the /
directory and got a "permission denied" when trying to cd to /usr/home.

I exitedand logged on as myself and the same thing happened, no access to
my home directory (as root, I could go anywhere), in fact my shell is
tcsh, but I was dropped to a csh prompt with the # after it, just like I
was root --(but I didn't have root access unless I su'd).

I compared all the file/folder permissions with my working desktop box
(FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE on both) and I could see no differences at all.
Taking the shotgun approach, I cvsupped the latest sources (about 3 days
worth, I buildworld fairly often).  Just for the heck of it, I pressed
alt-f2 and tried a login...  It works just as advertised, no permission
problems, no wrong shell prompt, placed in the current directory...
everything.

To say I'm baffled is an understatement, I'd appreciate any ideas on how
to unbaffle me before I buildworld and kernel (I feel in my bones that
rebuilding everything isn't going to fix this, anyway).

TIA

Tim
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Hi,


I'm wondering, does anyone use KDevelop with FreeBSD R4.5.
In the past I tried it, but was never successfull.

Now it works, after you install the following ports:

autoconf-2.52_2
automake-1.5,1

I already had these ports installed but they where not recognised???:

autoconf213-2.13.000227_1
automake14-1.4.5

But when you select the menu: build -> configure with these parameters:

--with-qt-dir=/usr/X11R6/lib --prefix=/usr/local/bin

it still gives the following errors:

...
checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 2.2.2) (libraries) not
found. Please check your installation!
For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
*** failed ***
...

Does this mean I have to install Qt2.2.2?
Why isn't the installed qt-2.3.1 port not recognised?
I thought the FreeBSD port structure figures out what ports are needed.


thanks in advance,

Ben Stroeken


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I sent this message a couple of days ago with no response. I'm really =
hoping for some direction as I'm stuck right now in getting FreeBSD =
running. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

*************************************************************************=
*******************************
As a newbie, I've had the same experience as Soso and also am hoping for
direction on how to solve this. I did have FreeBSD 4.4 installed without
error so am not sure why 4.5 is different.

The setup is:
Machine:
PII 100 Mhz, 1.2 Gig HD, 40 Mg RAM. I know this is a low end machine but =
as
I'm new to FreeBSD and am interested in playing with ipFW & Apache this =
was
a machine that I could dedicate to FreeBSD.

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VAR,
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Eric Theobald wrote:

 > I sent this message a couple of days ago with no response. I'm
 > really  hoping for some direction as I'm stuck right now in
 > getting FreeBSD  running. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 >
 >
 >
 > Thanks.
 >
 >
 >
 > 
********************************************************************************************************
 >

 >
 > As a newbie, I've had the same experience as Soso and also am
 > hoping for direction on how to solve this. I did have FreeBSD 4.4
 >  installed without error so am not sure why 4.5 is different.
 >
 > The setup is: Machine: PII 100 Mhz, 1.2 Gig HD, 40 Mg RAM. I know
 > this is a low end machine but as I'm new to FreeBSD and am
 > interested in playing with ipFW & Apache this was a machine that
 > I could dedicate to FreeBSD.
 >
 > Install: Dedicated HD to FreeBSD and auto-defaults (128 Mg /, 65
 > Mg swap, 256 Mg VAR, 256 Mg tmp, 516 Mg USR). Installed X-User,
 > with default basic slection for XFree. The install recommended
 > installing Ports and said that it would burn 100 Mg so I did
 > select it.
 >
 > Error: /mnt/usr: create/symlink failed, no inodes free.
 >
 > How can I have burned 517 Mg in the USR space during the install?
 > Any suggestions would be appreciated.


My /usr/ports is much larger than 100 MB. What shows up with a du -h is

508M    ./distfiles
255M    ./packages
1.2G    .

Out of the 1.2GB, 763 MB has been generated. That still leaves 400+ MB 
for ports and port-structures. When I finish building a port, I do a 
make clean. Any files that you download will be in the distfiles. With 
as little space as you have allocated, you will have to keep it 
cleaned up.

Kent


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 > Thanks, Eric.
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Hi,
  Well my problem was that the image was broken. You can check if your installation CD is ok, by generating MD5 hashes for all the files (or the files that fail to install; e.g. my installation failed during /bin installation so I checked only the files from the /bin directory from the installing CD) and comparing the results with the original ones from the cd (CHECKSUM.MD5). If it wouldnt match, then your cd is corrupted. In my case, 2 files from the bin directory were corrupted...
  I hope this helps, but your error message seems to be related with the fact that you dont have enough disk space, at least thats what I think (I'm a newbie to :)) ).

> I sent this message a couple of days ago with no response. I'm really 
> hoping for some direction as I'm stuck right now in getting FreeBSD 
> running. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> *************************************************************************
> *******************************
> As a newbie, I've had the same experience as Soso and also am hoping for
> direction on how to solve this. I did have FreeBSD 4.4 installed without
> error so am not sure why 4.5 is different.
> 
> The setup is:
> Machine:
> PII 100 Mhz, 1.2 Gig HD, 40 Mg RAM. I know this is a low end machine but 
> as
> I'm new to FreeBSD and am interested in playing with ipFW & Apache this 
> was
> a machine that I could dedicate to FreeBSD.
> 
> Install:
> Dedicated HD to FreeBSD and auto-defaults (128 Mg /, 65 Mg swap, 256 Mg 
> VAR,
> 256 Mg tmp, 516 Mg USR). Installed X-User, with default basic slection 
> for
> XFree. The install recommended installing Ports and said that it would 
> burn
> 100 Mg so I did select it.
> 
> Error:
> /mnt/usr: create/symlink failed, no inodes free.
> 
> How can I have burned 517 Mg in the USR space during the install? Any
> suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks, Eric.
> 
> 




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On Saturday 09 February 2002 20:03, stan wrote:

> I would sugest removing all the mess you have put in place, build it from
> the ports, and use the Tk based autocinfgurator.

Hmm... IIRC this autoconfigurator isn't installed by the wine-port. And I 
seem to recall I just got a bunch of errormessages when I tried to play with 
it.

How are you using it?

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Hello everyone.

I cvsuped to the latest current branch.
I then did a "make buildworld" which went great.

Now when i do a "make installworld" i get the following error

******** start error*****

===> secure/lib/libtelnet
rm -f /usr/lib/libtelnet.so.2.0
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libtelnet.a /usr/lib
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libtelnet_p.a /usr/lib
===> secure/lib/libcrypto
mkdir -p openssl
mkdir:No such file or directory
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib.
*** Error code 1

******** end error*****

My cvsup file downloads everything from the server.

This problem really puzzles me.

If anyone could help i would be so very happy
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I've successfully built ntop 2 on 4 FreeBSD boxes, the 5th one is
obstinate, though.  Using cvsupped sources (from today), and portupgrade
(most recent build), the compile bombs at the linking level (I think).

I've even gone so far as to portupgrade every listed dependency, still No
Joy.

The following is a snip from the end of the make clean build where it
errors out:

main.o: In function `main':M
/usr/ports/net/ntop/work/ntop/main.c(.text+0xed2): undefined reference to
`__pt
.libs/libntopreport.so: undefined reference to `__pthread_fork'M
.libs/libntop.so: undefined reference to `pthread_yield_np'M
.libs/libntop.so: undefined reference to `__pthread_sendto'M
.libs/libntopreport.so: undefined reference to `__pthread_select'M
.libs/libntopreport.so: undefined reference to `__pthread_recv'M
.libs/libntopreport.so: undefined reference to `__pthread_accept'M
.libs/libntop.so: undefined reference to `__pthread_detach'M
.libs/libntop.so: undefined reference to `__pthread_waitpid'M
.libs/libntopreport.so: undefined reference to `__pthread_send'M
gmake[2]: *** [ntop] Error 1M
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net/ntop/work/ntop'M
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1M
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net/ntop/work/ntop'M
gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2M
*** Error code 2M
M
Stop in /usr/ports/net/ntop.M
*** Error code 1M

Appreciate any ideas

Tim Kellers
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On 2002-02-10 09:54, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> Hello,
> I submitted a PR a while back for a small change to a kernel module that has
> not yet surfaced in Stable .. that's ok, I am not complaining about
> that.. but since I track STABLE, what is the easiest way to
> automatically infiltrate my change (I am looking for a generic kind
> of answer) when I cvsup (which I do once a week).
> 
> In this case, it is not such a big deal, since it is only 2 lines !
> But I would like to know for reference how this can be dealt with
> elegantly.

You can always keep a change in diff files, and apply the change with
patch(1) manually, after you CVSup.  This means you will have too manually
resolve any possible conflicts, or even make from scratch the changes that
the patch contains to a file that changed radically though.

If your diffs are saved with commands like:

	# cd /usr/src
	# diff -u sys/sys/errno.h.orig sys/sys/errno.h > /patch/errno

then you can easily apply the patch after CVSUP with:

	# cd /usr/src
	# patch -p0 < /patch/errno

An alternative solution is the CVS mirror described in a previous post.
You don't CVSup into /usr/src directly, but mirror everything in /home/ncvs
or some place else.  Then, you update the sources with:

a) Updating the sources, using 'clean' versions from the FreeBSD tree

	# cd /usr/src
	# cvs -R -d /home/ncvs update -APCd

b) Updating the sources, merging files of the local tree with FreeBSD
   versions of the same file:

	# cd /usr/src
	# cvs -R -d /home/ncvs update -APd

(The important difference between a) and b) is the use (or lack) of the -C
option.  Read the description of -C in cvs help to find out why :-)


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On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 01:57:49PM -0500, Tim Kellers wrote:

[...]

> I exited KDE (and X) su'd, and did an adduser for my son who wanted to
> play the games.  I exited and he logged on, but he was dropped to the /
> directory and got a "permission denied" when trying to cd to /usr/home.

What does:

	ls -ld / /usr /usr/home /usr/home/homedir-of-new-account

come back with?
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On 2002-02-10 08:14, Mike Meyer wrote:
> 
> I haven't tried it for FreeBSD, but for other projects using cvs, I
> don't need to keep a local copy of the repository to do this. I just
> point cvs at the remote repository, and then let "cvs update" do it's
> thing. It seems to work fine, updating files that I haven't changed,
> and trying to merge files that have changed in both places.
> 
> Does keeping the local repository help in some way?

As far as I'm concerned, it just makes things easier when you want to view
diffs between arbitrary versions of the source code, and the network
connection is not permanent (for instance, a dialup link).

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On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 03:53:08PM -0500, Tim Kellers wrote:
> 
> I've successfully built ntop 2 on 4 FreeBSD boxes, the 5th one is
> obstinate, though.  Using cvsupped sources (from today), and portupgrade
> (most recent build), the compile bombs at the linking level (I think).
> 
> I've even gone so far as to portupgrade every listed dependency, still No
> Joy.
> 
> The following is a snip from the end of the make clean build where it
> errors out:
> 
> main.o: In function `main':M
> /usr/ports/net/ntop/work/ntop/main.c(.text+0xed2): undefined reference to
> `__pt
> .libs/libntopreport.so: undefined reference to `__pthread_fork'M
[...]

Do you have libc_r? That's how configure finds out by me about
pthread_create(). This is my output of config.log:

configure:4367: checking for pthread_create in -lpthread
configure:4386: cc -o conftest -g -O -pipe    conftest.c -lpthread   1>&5
/usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lpthread
[...]
configure:4471: checking for pthread_create in -lpthreads
configure:4490: cc -o conftest -g -O -pipe    conftest.c -lpthreads   1>&5
/usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lpthreads
[...]
configure:4575: checking for pthread_create in -lc_r
configure:4594: cc -o conftest -g -O -pipe    conftest.c -lc_r   1>&5
/usr/lib/libc.so: WARNING!  setkey(3) not present in the system!

Edwin

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If this can help :
#=20
**********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
#=20
**********************************************************************

Section "Device"
    Identifier "Generic VGA"
    Driver     "vga"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "S3 ViRGE (generic)"
    VendorName  "Unknown"
    BoardName   "Unknown"
    Driver      "s3virge"
#    VideoRam    2048
    # Clock lines


    # Uncomment following option if you see a big white block       =20
    # instead of the cursor!                                         =20
    #    Option      "sw_cursor"

    Option      "DPMS"  "on"
EndSection



#=20
**********************************************************************
# Screen sections
#=20
**********************************************************************


Section "Screen"
    Identifier "screen1"
    Device      "S3 ViRGE (generic)"
    Monitor     "Nokia|Nokia 447ZA"
    DefaultColorDepth 16
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "1024x768" "800x600" "640x400"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       15
        Modes       "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes       "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       32
        Modes       "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "layout1"
    Screen     "screen1"

    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"

    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection


On Saturday 09 February 2002 23:40, you wrote:
| Hello, RoadRunner,
|
| Thanks for your reply!
|
| El 8 Feb 2002 a las 20:53, RoadRunner escrib=F3:
| >> On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:49:56 -0800
| >>
| >> "Bert Hiddink" <hiddink@galileo.or.cr> wrote:
| >> > Hello,
| >> >
| >> > I tried to get a X-Windows Server running with the following
| >>
| >> configuration:> FreeBSD release-4.4 on 5 year old Dells (Pentium
| >> 200 MMX, 64Mb), S3 Trio+V chipset.>
| >>
| >> > I have installed X-Windows installed several times on other
| >> > machines
| >>
| >> with FreeBSD, however, in this > case, I have not had succes so
| >> far. I have not give up yet but just would like to know wether >
| >> anyone of you has done this succesfully? >
| >>
| >> Sometimes, (though not always) I've found (especially with XFree
| >> 4.x that rather than the correct S3 Trio, if you say S3 Virge
| >> (generic) it works perfectly--found this out by accident, after
| >> a mistype in xf86config. Since then, I've had success with this
| >> a few times--RH and Gentoo Linux as well as FreeBSD.
| >>
| >> HTH a little
| >>
| >> Scott Robbins
|
| I tried your suggestion but it won't work. With the graphic and
| non-graphic setup, when I choose the S3- Virge Generic, the machine
| hangs and I have to reset the machine in order to get it up again.
| Any more suggestion?
|
| Many thanks in advance!
| -brt
|
|    Bert Hiddink, FUNDACION GALILEO
|    Correo electronico: hiddink@galileo.or.cr
|    Sitio: http://www.galileo.or.cr
|    Tel. (506) 280 8683, telefax. (506) 280 8847
|
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> ls -ld / /usr /usr/home /usr/home/andrew
drwxr-xr-x  18 root    wheel  512 Feb 10 00:06 /
drwxr-xr-x  19 root    wheel  512 Jan 29 15:13 /usr
drwxrwxr-x   5 root    wheel  512 Feb 10 12:56 /usr/home
drwxrwxr-x   6 andrew  test   512 Feb 10 16:47 /usr/home/andrew


On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Jonathan Chen wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 01:57:49PM -0500, Tim Kellers wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I exited KDE (and X) su'd, and did an adduser for my son who wanted to
> > play the games.  I exited and he logged on, but he was dropped to the /
> > directory and got a "permission denied" when trying to cd to /usr/home.
>
> What does:
>
> 	ls -ld / /usr /usr/home /usr/home/homedir-of-new-account
>
> come back with?
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Hi,

Following the handbook all is well up until:

" Build a statically linked copy of named-xfer and copy it into the
sandbox "
# cd /usr/src/lib/libisc && make clean all
# cd /usr/src/lib/libbind && make clean all
# cd /usr/src/libexec/named-xfer && make NOSHARED=yes all
# cp named-xfer /etc/namedb/bin && chmod 555
/etc/namedb/bin/named-xfer
cp: named-xfer is a directory (not copied).

I am newbie and likely missing something here but (1) the "... (not
copied)" makes complete sense in this context, and (2) I don't see how
copying named-xfer/ (a directory with only a Makefile as it's
contents) into the sandbox will achieve the stated effect of copying a
statically linked copy of named-xfer into the sandbox...

I'm confused.

Jeff




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david@van.web.za wrote:

> Hello everyone.
> 
> I cvsuped to the latest current branch.
> I then did a "make buildworld" which went great.
> 
> Now when i do a "make installworld" i get the following error
> 
> ******** start error*****
> 
> ===> secure/lib/libtelnet
> rm -f /usr/lib/libtelnet.so.2.0
> install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libtelnet.a /usr/lib
> install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libtelnet_p.a /usr/lib
> ===> secure/lib/libcrypto
> mkdir -p openssl
> mkdir:No such file or directory
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> ******** end error*****
> 
> My cvsup file downloads everything from the server.


If you mean src-all, then that is all for a tag. Which tag did you 
download? Downloading all would produce a cvs miror. The error in the 
past was from not downloading one of the crypto sources.

Kent


> 
> This problem really puzzles me.
> 
> If anyone could help i would be so very happy
> Thank you
> David van Rensburg
> 
> 
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Hi:

If anyone has gotten a Kodak DC280 working on USB on FreeBSD,
could you please give me detailed instructions how?

This is on FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE.  The camera is recognized by
the USB subsystem:

ugen0: Eastman Kodak Company KODAK DC280 Zoom Digital Camera, 
  rev 1.00/1.01, addr 2

I've tried gphoto 1 and 2 and other utilities but they just don't
seem to connect to the camera.

All I want to do is get the photos off the camera.


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can i somehow configure jail so everything that is in jail wll be go to
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Is anyone running this mainboard with FreeBSD, and if so, is it good 
compatibility wise?

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I configured XF86Config correctly, i just need to know how to make the thumb
button (i think it's button 6) do a specific command.  I just can't get
IMWheel working.


----- Original Message -----
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> What kind of mouse is it? If you're running XFree 4.1, you can specify the
> number of buttons in the XF86Config file. I believe you an also do this
for
> Xfree 3.3.6. Point is, I never had to run imwheel on any of my FreeBSD
boxes
> to get 3 (or more) buttons to work.
>
> Then again, I am not 100% sure of what you are trying to do.
>
> On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 09:54:25PM -0500, Jeff Jeter wrote:
> > From: "Jeff Jeter" <gsfgf@hotmail.com>
> > To: "FreeBSD Questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Subject: Program mouse butons
> > Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 21:54:25 -0500
> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700
> >
> >
> >    Sorry about posting so many questions in 1 day.  I have just now had
a
> >    chance to work on the system.
> >
> >
> >
> >    How do i program the thub button on my mouse in KDE?
> >
> >
> >
> >    Results of my attempts:
> >
> >    I tried imwheel, but when i run the installed port (0.9.9) it says
> >    "expected 3 args, got 1, in config".  What do i do about this?  When
i
> >    try to build 1.0.0pre1 it says "Makefile" line 211: Need an operator.
> >    Line 211 is "clean-binPROGRAMS:"
> >
> >
> >
> >    Thanks,
> >
> >    Jeff Jeter
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Hi,

I recompiled and installed a new kernel then remembered
in my old config file (which I unfortunately lost), I may
have had to have changed the ed0 line in the config
from 0x280 to 0x300. I only have remote access so
its kind of important that I have it right before rebooting!

the line in GENERIC :
   device          ed0     at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000

the line in my dmesg file :
   ed0 at port 0x300-0x31f iomem 0xd8000 irq 10 on isa0

Should I change the kern conf to say '0x300' instead of
'0x280', should I not touch it? or even change it
to '0x300-0x31f'?

Ideas thoughts would be appreciated (: Thankyou. (In
future I will be using 'option INCLUDE_KERNEL_CONFIG'
I didn't know about it before).

Regards,
Jacob Rhoden




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What's the story with these messages from ld?

/usr/lib/libc.so: WARNING!  setkey(3) not present in the system!
/usr/lib/libc.so: WARNING!  des_setkey(3) not present in the system!
/usr/lib/libc.so: WARNING!  encrypt(3) not present in the system!
/usr/lib/libc.so: WARNING!  des_cipher(3) not present in the system!

I'm running 4.5 installed from release CDROMs. Is this govt-encumbered
code that I have to get from somewhere special and rebuild libc?

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Upgrading to 4.5-STABLE from 4.5-RELEASE and i got this:

=3D=3D=3D> lib/libcrypt
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libcrypt.a /usr/lib
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libcrypt_p.a /usr/lib
install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444   -fschg  libcrypt.so.2 /usr/lib
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...any ideas?  thanks.

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Hello

   I am attempting to install OpenSSH and Portsentry (downloaded ports from
FreeBSD.org site) onto my FreeBSD 3.3 box.  The packages appeared to install
without any problems, but I am getting the two error messages when I attempt to
run the programs.  Any help in pointing me to the cause or fix of the problem
would be greatly appreciated.

OpenSSH run error:
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libcrypto.so.2" not found

Portsentry run error:
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.4" not found

Thanks,
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Hi i want to run freebsd on one of my computers but it doesnt have a modem 
and i was wondering if you could help me out with a list of modems (i prefer 
external)  that are compatible with freebsd.

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>Following the handbook all is well up until:

that applies to BIND8.

Try bind9, it's much each to chroot.  check the ARM doc for how to do it.

pkg_add -r bind

will add bind 9.2

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Hello all,

I would like to possibly simplify the process of installations and post =
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in order to provide a visual walkthrough. I am extremely visual when it =
comes to learning and after 30 or so attemps i finally succeed in =
installing what i wanted and got a fully functionning system.
I can fully understand that feeling of utter frustration and anger when =
reading from a book, web, whatever and feeling completely in the dark - =
only to hours later wipe an entire HDD or blow the install and spend =
what is usually countless hours of re-installs only to make similar =
mistakes.
The questions-
I am assuming the gifs? of the install selection screens are on the cd - =
yes?  Where are they? I know they are in the handbook which if choosen =
is installed with the os, can I find them anywhere else?
Through reading posts, the handbook, bsd sites I found the choices that =
were nessasary to install say, dhcp a nic or the info pages or the like =
were not in intuitive places (naturally, my own opinion ;-)) but were in =
extra packages or something similar.

Has anyone else thought along similar lines? I am a newbie but perhaps =
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myself), a collection of screenshots for the most crucial points and =
perhaps a listing of what one would find in a particular offshoot from =
the main /stand/sysinstall screen.
I would like to help and further my own knowledge. Please provide some =
feedback
Thanks,
Mark      =20

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I think most external modems will work fine with
FreeBSD.  It's the PCI WinModems that you have to
avoid.

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould

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> and i was wondering if you could help me out with a
> list of modems (i prefer 
> external)  that are compatible with freebsd.
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All external modems are compatible.

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On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 03:40:59PM -0800, Mark Hepp wrote:
> Hello all,
>=20
> I would like to possibly simplify the process of installations and
> post the results through screenshots. my idea is this - provide
> screenshots of the appropriate stages and what I choose that worked
> for my systems in order to provide a visual walkthrough. I am
> extremely visual when it comes to learning and after 30 or so
> attemps i finally succeed in installing what i wanted and got a
> fully functionning system.

If you're offering to help expand the screenshots which are currently
in the handbook, talk to the doc@FreeBSD.org list.

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oh yes, that works now.
oh once more, happy valentine's day and once again
thank you indeed.

with best regards,
psr
--- Andrew Gould <andrewgould@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- pirat sriyotha <makhamus@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > hi sirs,
> > 
> > apologize me for disturbing this list but i really
> > need your help. i've installed mysql323-server a
> few
> > minutes ago and restarted my 4.5-stable FreeBSD
> box.
> > 
> > once i enter command mysqladmin -u root -p
> password
> > `newpassword', i got and error that says
> > 
> > mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost'
> failed
> > error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost'
> > (Using password: YES)'
> > 
> > i entered this command both from plain user and
> > super
> > user with the same error.
> > 
> > anyone hints are appreciated.
> > 
> > please cc to me too.
> > 
> > with best regards,
> > psr
> 
> Eliminate the -p in your command line:
> 
> mysqladmin -uroot password "new_password"
> 
> The -p prompts for an existing password; thus, the
> error message.
> 
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> 
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I just downloaded the 4.5-RELEASE binary images kern.flp, and mfsroot.flp to 
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Is it possible to copy the freebsd from 1 drive to another? I want to =
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Hi,

I felt like doing something new, so I installed mod_perl.
My httpd.conf was updated by the ports install script, with
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Is there another log somewhere that I'm missing, or something?

thanks,

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Hello, Mess-mate!

Thanks for your message! I had already found out that setting up the X-Ser=
ver was not the problem 
really. The problem was that when you are logged in as root, the X-Server =
did not read the 
/etc/XF86Config file (the one i was editing) but the $Xroot/lib/X11/XF86Co=
nfig! So when I fixed 
this (coping the one from /etc/ to $Xroot/lib/X11/, I could run KDE perfec=
tly.

However, after configuring KDE, logging out and then logging in again, onc=
e again the server hanged 
(pfffff.). I suppose (please correct me if I am wrong) that I have a write=
 permission problem 
somewhere for X-Windows/KDE. Is this a right assumption? How could this be=
 fixed?

Many thanks in advance for your help

regards,
-brt

El 10 Feb 2002 a las 21:32, mess-mate escrib=F3: 

>> If this can help :
>> # 
>> **********************************************************************
>> # Graphics device section
>> # 
>> **********************************************************************
>> 
>> Section "Device"
>>     Identifier "Generic VGA"
>>     Driver     "vga"
>> EndSection
>> 
>> Section "Device"
>>     Identifier  "S3 ViRGE (generic)"
>>     VendorName  "Unknown"
>>     BoardName   "Unknown"
>>     Driver      "s3virge"
>> #    VideoRam    2048
>>     # Clock lines
>> 
>> 
>>     # Uncomment following option if you see a big white block        
>>     # instead of the cursor!                                          
>>     #    Option      "sw_cursor"
>> 
>>     Option      "DPMS"  "on"
>> EndSection
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> # 
>> **********************************************************************
>> # Screen sections
>> # 
>> **********************************************************************
>> 
>> 
>> Section "Screen"
>>     Identifier "screen1"
>>     Device      "S3 ViRGE (generic)"
>>     Monitor     "Nokia|Nokia 447ZA"
>>     DefaultColorDepth 16
>>     Subsection "Display"
>>         Depth       8
>>         Modes       "1024x768" "800x600" "640x400"
>>         ViewPort    0 0
>>     EndSubsection
>>     Subsection "Display"
>>         Depth       15
>>         Modes       "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>>         ViewPort    0 0
>>     EndSubsection
>>     Subsection "Display"
>>         Depth       16
>>         Modes       "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>>         ViewPort    0 0
>>     EndSubsection
>>     Subsection "Display"
>>         Depth       24
>>         Modes       "800x600" "640x480"
>>         ViewPort    0 0
>>     EndSubsection
>>     Subsection "Display"
>>         Depth       32
>>         Modes       "800x600" "640x480"
>>         ViewPort    0 0
>>     EndSubsection
>> EndSection
>> 
>> 
>> Section "ServerLayout"
>>     Identifier "layout1"
>>     Screen     "screen1"
>> 
>>     InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
>> 
>>     InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
>> EndSection
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday 09 February 2002 23:40, you wrote:
>> | Hello, RoadRunner,
>> |
>> | Thanks for your reply!
>> |
>> | El 8 Feb 2002 a las 20:53, RoadRunner escrib=F3:
>> | >> On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:49:56 -0800
>> | >>
>> | >> "Bert Hiddink" <hiddink@galileo.or.cr> wrote:
>> | >> > Hello,
>> | >> >
>> | >> > I tried to get a X-Windows Server running with the following
>> | >>
>> | >> configuration:> FreeBSD release-4.4 on 5 year old Dells (Pentium
>> | >> 200 MMX, 64Mb), S3 Trio+V chipset.>
>> | >>
>> | >> > I have installed X-Windows installed several times on other
>> | >> > machines
>> | >>
>> | >> with FreeBSD, however, in this > case, I have not had succes so
>> | >> far. I have not give up yet but just would like to know wether >
>> | >> anyone of you has done this succesfully? >
>> | >>
>> | >> Sometimes, (though not always) I've found (especially with XFree
>> | >> 4.x that rather than the correct S3 Trio, if you say S3 Virge
>> | >> (generic) it works perfectly--found this out by accident, after
>> | >> a mistype in xf86config. Since then, I've had success with this
>> | >> a few times--RH and Gentoo Linux as well as FreeBSD.
>> | >>
>> | >> HTH a little
>> | >>
>> | >> Scott Robbins
>> |
>> | I tried your suggestion but it won't work. With the graphic and
>> | non-graphic setup, when I choose the S3- Virge Generic, the machine
>> | hangs and I have to reset the machine in order to get it up again.
>> | Any more suggestion?
>> |
>> | Many thanks in advance!
>> | -brt
>> |
>> |    Bert Hiddink, FUNDACION GALILEO
>> |    Correo electronico: hiddink@galileo.or.cr
>> |    Sitio: http://www.galileo.or.cr
>> |    Tel. (506) 280 8683, telefax. (506) 280 8847
>> |
>> |
>> | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
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>> -- 
>> mess-mate
>> 



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Hi

I am New to FreeBSD and I have installed freebsd 4.5 now on my old p2. I h=
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On 2002-02-10 18:02, Cr33p1n@aol.com wrote:
> Hi i want to run freebsd on one of my computers but it doesnt have a modem 
> and i was wondering if you could help me out with a list of modems (i prefer 
> external)  that are compatible with freebsd.

I've had problems with some internal modems (those that are called
'Winmodems') by the Unix folk), and with some external USB modems.

An external, serial modem will work without problems in FreeBSD, Linux,
Windows, or what operating system you happen to have handy...  Go for one
of these.


Giorgos Keramidas                           FreeBSD Documentation Project
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X will start as root. But X will not
start as a user. I think it's a problem
w/my xwrapper config. I have tried several times
to follow the correct config. But so far I can't
get it to work Here is the error message:

xauth:  creating new authority file /home/leegold/.Xauthority
xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name ":0" in "list" command
xauth:  creating new authority file /home/leegold/.Xauthority
xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name ":0" in "add" command
xauth:  creating new authority file /home/leegold/.Xauthority
xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name ":0" in "list" command
xauth:  creating new authority file /home/leegold/.Xauthority
xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name ":0" in "add" command


XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: xx November 2000
	If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
	than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
	problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386 [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 1):
      NV1, STG2000, RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2, RIVA ULTRA TNT2,
      RIVA VANTA, RIVA ULTRA VANTA, RIVA INTEGRATED, GeForce 256,
      GeForce DDR, Quadro, GeForce2 GTS, GeForce2 GTS (rev1),
      GeForce2 Ultra, Quadro 2 Pro, GeForce2 MX, GeForce2 MX DDR,
      Quadro 2 MXR, ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i, ET4000W32i_rev_b,
      ET4000W32i_rev_c, ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a, ET4000W32p_rev_b,
      ET4000W32p_rev_c, ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100, et3000, pvga1,
      wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33, gvga, r128, ati,
      sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, sis86c215, sis86c225, sis5597,
      sis5598, sis6326, sis530, sis620, sis300, sis630, sis540, tvga8200lx,
      tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000,
      tvga9000i, tvga9100b, tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi,
      tgui9430dgi, tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682,
      tgui9685, cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520,
      cyber9525, 3dimage975, 3dimage985, cyber9397dvd, blade3d, cyberblade,
      clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428, clgd5429, clgd5430,
      clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446, clgd5480, clgd5462, clgd5464, clgd5465,
      clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541, clgd7542, clgd7543,
      clgd7548, clgd7555, clgd7556, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, cpq_avga, mga2064w,
      mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, mgag200, mgag100, mgag400, oti067,
      oti077, oti087, oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301, ali2302, ali2308,
      ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7, ark1000vl, ark1000pv,
      ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek, AP6422, AT24, AT3D, s3_savage,
      s3_virge, s3_svga, NM2070, NM2090, NM2093, NM2097, NM2160, NM2200,
      ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535, ct65540, ct65545, ct65546,
      ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct65555, ct68554, ct69000, ct64200,
      ct64300, mediagx, V1000, V2100, V2200, p9100, spc8110, i740, i740_pci,
      i810, i810-dc100, i810e, Voodoo Banshee, Voodoo3, smi, generic

Fatal server error:
xf86OpenConsole: Server must be running with root permissions
You should be using Xwrapper to start the server or xdm.
We strongly advise against making the server SUID root!


When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages

X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
xauth:  creating new authority file /home/leegold/.Xauthority
xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name ":0" in "remove" command
xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name ":0" in "remove" command


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: Try bind9, it's much each to chroot.  check the ARM doc for how to
do it.
:
: pkg_add -r bind
:
: will add bind 9.2
:

Thanks Len,

I checked out the ARM and chroot'ing bind looks a lot less complicated
in v9.  I have still 2 questions though:

(1) pkg_add -r bind ... installs bind-8.3.0 unfortunately.  Does the
ports version of bind9 - 9.1.3 - implement chroot in the same way as
9.2?  Or is there another way for me to download and install 9.2
within the ports or packages frameworks?

(2) The ARM mentions that some OS's may need to shuffle some files in
under the etc/named directory.  Have you had to do this in FBSD?

"Unlike with earlier versions of BIND, you will typically not need to
compile named statically nor install
shared libraries under the new root. However, depending on your
operating system, you may need to set
up things like /dev/zero, /dev/random, /dev/log, and/or
/etc/localtime."



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On Sunday,  3 February 2002 at  2:39:12 -0800, Tim Baird wrote:
> At 12:30 PM 03/02/02 +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Saturday,  2 February 2002 at 17:04:28 -0800, Tim Baird wrote:
>>> As per your request for a little more info....
>>> on-disk config...
>>>
>>> IN VINOvinum1H<*L<V}volume usr state up
>>
>> Hmm.  That "vinum1" is a drive name.  That's why it couldn't rename it
>> alpha, but I don't understand that.  I'll try to reproduce that one.
>> Try copying zeros to the disk:
>>
>>   # dd if=/dev/zero  of=/dev/ad0s1f count=2 seek=8
>>
>> That should transfer two blocks, and after that you should have no
>> information from the output dump.  Check that I'm right with the
>> output device name.
>
> That seemed to do it....
>
> BTW, I am attempting some crude performance tests...basically read/write
> speeds using the 4.5 source distribution as a bundle of files to push
> around.  So far it is about 20% faster when doing a cp from one directory
> to another on the non-vinum partition than the equivalent cp between
> directories on the vinum partition.    I have softupdates enabled on both
> partitions.
>
> There is one fly in the ointment in that the smaller drive (one of the
> subdisks of 2G) is a UDMA 33 and the other (which holds 1 2G subdisk and
> the remaining non-vinum partions) is a UDMA 66.
>
> The improved bus transfer rate will still help vinum I suppose when using
> the faster subdisk....
>
> The bottom line is, am I justified in expecting to see a higher throughput
> on the vinum area than the non-vinum area or are there simply too many
> other latency factors that I am ignoring?

You should see approximately the same performance under these
circumstances.  If your stripe size is too small, or it's a power of
2, you'll probably see a drop.  In the case of too small a stripe
size, this is because of the additional I/O that small stripes
create.  In the latter case, you're going to be hitting the same drive
all the time for the metadata updates.

It's possible that there are other issues.  It would be nice to see
what the performance is like on a concatenated plex.

Greg
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On Thursday,  7 February 2002 at 19:31:36 +0100, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I'm looking for a software RAID 1 KISS solution. I know about vinum
> but I don't really like the complexity it brings to the game...

I'd be interested in your views on what complexity Vinum brings beyond
the basic understanding of the concepts of RAID systems.

> What I'm looking for is simple: a driver/device that takes two
> identical disks and simply copies every write to the device to both
> of the drives so I always have identical copies of the
> drive. Balancing of reads would be nice, but not ultimately needed.

What's wrong with the vinum mirror command?  Well, I have an answer
for that, but I don't think it's your reason.

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Long-short syndrome.

On Thursday,  7 February 2002 at 20:03:49 +0100, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
> Hello jacks,
>
> 7 Feb 2002, 19:50:29, you wrote:
>
>> Gabriel: Good luck! I've been looking for this very same thing and
>> also agree that Vinum is much too complex with too many working
>> parts subject to breakdown. It also still will not do a pure RAID 1
>> where the hard drives are kept identical (mirrored) inasmuch as
>> root is not copied and must be copied by some separate method, at
>> least my understanding.
>
> ACK. It will only mirror individual partitions which in theory adds
> a lot of configurability but in practice just plain sucks as it
> makes the whole thing way too complex.   

Well, no, Vinum doesn't mirror partitions.  What would you like it to
do?

> (Maybe I should look into the old ccd stuff if that is still around)

It's still around.  It only mirrors individual partitions.  It also
doesn't recover gracefully from failures.

>> IDEs have changed, are much bigger and faster now and perhaps RAID
>> 1 support will come for IDEs..??? Hope so.
>
> ACK.

It's available under Vinum.

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hi,

i am using freebsd since about 3-4 years, from 3.4-stable.  and on
that experience alone, it's hard to find a job either as a help desk
staff or a junior unix system administrator.

so, i am thinking creating and maintaining a network of at least 3
os'es on 3 different machines:

- freebsd 4-stable on current dell i5000e
- some linux distribution on a drive shared by windows 95 on a
  old/low spec ibm aptiva currently stored in attic
- solaris/sunOs on yet-to-buy used/cheap sun hardware
- mac os x, along w/ netbsd, on yet-to-buy desktop or laptop

i can see sun hardware purchase in near future but not any apple
hardware any time soon.

does anybody have suggestions for a linux distribution, as i
haven't ever touched any?

i will be using freebsd/dell for the everyday work; linux & sun
could run lpd, postfix, apache, and for remote syslog logging.

dell laptop has two type II card slots, a serial port, a parallel
port, and one usb port; aptiva has 1-3 pci slots available, a serial
port, a parallel port, maybe 1-2 usb port(s).

i have a 3com 4-port ethernet-modem hub; a 10base-T ethernet pcmcia
card, and linksys pcmlm 56 modem+ethernet (only modem works); a 56k
external modem.  connection to the outside world is possible only
via dial-up modem.  oh, and a ps2+pcl5 laser printer.

what other hardware would i be needing to connect a freebsd i386
laptop, linux i386 desktop, and yet-unseen-cheap sun hardware/os to
each other via ethernet?

any other tips will be much appreciated.

 -  parv

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I posted this a few days ago and have gotten no replies so far.

Samba set up as a print server on FreeBSD.  All users mapped to
"nobody" but nobody can't delete a print job once it's created it.
lpq show that the print job belongs to nobody, but if user nobody
tries to lprm it, permission is denied.

I believe I've determined that this is _not_ a samba problem, as
I tweaked the nobody account to allow login and tried deleting
print jobs from the console.  lpq shows the job belonging to 
"nobody", but lprm returns "permission denied".

Is there anything special about the "nobody" user that would cause
this?

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>(1) pkg_add -r bind ... installs bind-8.3.0 unfortunately.

oops, sorry, I forgot that the site I was thinking about, I installed from 
ISC's tar.gz

>   Does the
>ports version of bind9 - 9.1.3 - implement chroot in the same way as
>9.2?  Or is there another way for me to download and install 9.2
>within the ports or packages frameworks?

ftp to ftp.isc.org and get 9.2.

>(2) The ARM mentions that some OS's may need to shuffle some files in
>under the etc/named directory.  Have you had to do this in FBSD?

there's some file shuffling that the bind port does, but I never really had 
any problems compiling and running from tar.gz.  I guesss this is FreeBSD 
politically correct, but wtf, I needed to make progress.

>"Unlike with earlier versions of BIND, you will typically not need to
>compile named statically nor install
>shared libraries under the new root. However, depending on your
>operating system, you may need to set
>up things like /dev/zero, /dev/random, /dev/log, and/or
>/etc/localtime."

yep, /etc/localtime got me, so I just added that to my /var/namedroot, and 
it ran.  follow ARM's doc, and it works.

Len


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hi there,

there seems to be an oddity in ksh93, compared to bash, based on how
a function is defined.  consider in some file sourced in ~/.kshrc,
or in ~/.kshrc itself...

func_a ()
{
  echo 'this is func_a'
}

function func_b
{
  echo 'this is func_b'
}

after, .kshrc is sourced, number of command history decreases by one
depending upon the number of func_a type definition.  2d form, of
func_b, does not affect the history.  and, that is even before any
command was issued at the prompt.

just a curiosity.


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Better watch that statement... :)

Don't want him going out and buying a USB modem.  Aren't those Winmodems
too?

Paint me curious,
--Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kris Kennaway
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> On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 06:02:01PM -0500, Cr33p1n@aol.com wrote:
> > Hi i want to run freebsd on one of my computers but it doesnt
> have a modem
> > and i was wondering if you could help me out with a list of
> modems (i prefer
> > external)  that are compatible with freebsd.
>
> All external modems are compatible.
>
> Kris
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On 2002-02-10 21:56, C J Michaels wrote:
> Better watch that statement... :)
> 
> Don't want him going out and buying a USB modem.
> Aren't those Winmodems too?

Indeed.  As a rule of thumb, most USB modems are Winmodems.

> Paint me curious,
> --Chris

OK, if I ever get near you, I'll write 'curious' on a can of paint
and aim carefully :P

- Giorgos

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kris Kennaway
> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 6:50 PM
> > To: Cr33p1n@aol.com
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: About your operating system
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 06:02:01PM -0500, Cr33p1n@aol.com wrote:
> > > Hi i want to run freebsd on one of my computers but it doesnt
> > have a modem
> > > and i was wondering if you could help me out with a list of
> > modems (i prefer
> > > external)  that are compatible with freebsd.
> >
> > All external modems are compatible.
> >
> > Kris
> >
> 
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On Sunday 10 February 2002 07:52 pm, gerald.mixa@web.de wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am New to FreeBSD and I have installed freebsd 4.5 now on my old p2. I
> have got problems with my harddisk no1 (write timout). This disk does not
> support dma, but freebsd allways boots it in dma mode. Hard disk no2 is
> capable to do dma and works fine! Now My question: How can I tell freebsd
> to do pio mode on disk 1 permanentley?
> boot options? recompile kernel?

Boot option.

/boot/loader.conf:
hw.ata.ata_dma=0

I think that this can be done from the interactive configuration screen as 
well, but I can't even remember how to bring that up.  Anyway, this works.


>
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On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 09:56:05PM -0500, C J Michaels wrote:
> Better watch that statement... :)
>=20
> Don't want him going out and buying a USB modem.  Aren't those Winmodems
> too?

Oops, I hadn't thought about that..I don't know if USB modems are
proprietary.  I meant to say 'all serial modems'.

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burningclown@westhost43.westhost.net writes:

> ad0s2e: start 27715974, end 27756933, size 40960
> ad0s2: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice
> ad0s2f: start 27756934, end 58605119, size 30848186
> 
> ... thing is, the partitions I'm using are ad0s3*. I'm not sure where this 
> stuff with ad0s1 and ad0s2 is even coming from. Anyone ever seen anything 
> like this before, or know how to get rid of it?

Yes, I've seen it, but no, I don't know how to get rid of it, sorry to
say.  It might have been the time I had wiped out a FreeBSD partition by
tarring into the device.  I remember I was getting errors from the
messed up filesystem even when I was not mounting that device (though it
might have been in fstab as "noauto").  I probably fixed that with
"newfs".  But I'm fairly sure the errors I got like yours were from
other partitions/slices with Linux on it or something.  ???

You might try booting into single-user mode and seeing if you get the
errors before and after mounting your normal partitions.

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On Sunday 10 February 2002 05:24 pm, John Wilson wrote:
> Is anyone running this mainboard with FreeBSD, and if so, is it
> good compatibility wise?
>
> Thanks,
> John

I built a machine in July of 2001 using a CUSL2, and have run FreeBSD 
on it ever since, box running 24x7.  Started with a CD-ROM install of 
4.3, then began cvsupping.  Have rebuilt world quite a few times, 
through 4.4-RELEASE and patches, 4.5-PREs, and now 4.5-RELEASE.  Also 
run XFree86-4 (which worked both with the onboard 815 graphics and 
the GeForce I added), and KDE.  Also, healthd works with the hardware 
monitoring chip if the right stuff is added to the kernel.

I have had no problems which can be linked to the motherboard AFAIK.  
Seems to me like a good MB for FreeBSD.

Derrick

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