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Date:      Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:00:26 -0700
From:      Ian Lepore <ian@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Charles Sprickman <spork@bway.net>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
Subject:   Re: So I whip out a FTDI-based multiport Serial USB Adapter....
Message-ID:  <1360015226.93359.502.camel@revolution.hippie.lan>
In-Reply-To: <66CBAB45-621B-47F8-AC67-64F816AFE837@bway.net>
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On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 16:31 -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Ian Lepore wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 14:58 -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
> >> On 2/4/2013 2:06 PM, Ian Lepore wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 12:57 -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
> >>>> ... and plug it into FreeBSD 9.1-Stable with the rev ID FreeBSD
> >>>> 9.1-STABLE #16 r244942
> >>>> 
> >>>> and it returns....
> >>>> 
> >>>> ugen4.4: <vendor 0x0409> at usbus4
> >>>> uhub6: <vendor 0x0409 product 0x0050, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 4>
> >>>> on usbus4
> >>>> uhub_attach: port 1 power on failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
> >>>> uhub_attach: port 2 power on failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
> >>>> uhub_attach: port 3 power on failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
> >>>> uhub_attach: port 4 power on failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
> >>>> uhub_attach: port 5 power on failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
> >>>> uhub_attach: port 6 power on failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
> >>>> uhub_attach: port 7 power on failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
> >>>> uhub6: 7 ports with 7 removable, self powered
> >>>> 
> >>>> Yuck.
> >>>> 
> >>>> The last time it was working was on a FreeBSD 7 box (yeah, I know,
> >>>> rather old) but I never had problems there.  And it appears that all of
> >>>> the device declarations that I used to have to put in the kernel as
> >>>> non-standard stuff are now in GENERIC, so I would expect it to work.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Ideas as to what may have gotten hosed up here?
> >>>> 
> >>> Those messages all seem to be related to a hub. Vendor ID 0x0409 is NEC.
> >>> 
> >>> FTDI's vendor ID is 0x0403, and FTDI stuff works fine in FreeBSD 9 and
> >>> 10; I use it all the time.  Sometimes aftermarket vendors who use FTDI's
> >>> parts program different vendor/product info and IDs have to be added to
> >>> code to recognize them, that's the only trouble one usually encounters.
> >>> 
> >>> -- Ian
> >> Well, that sorta kinda worked. 
> >> 
> >> Except that it still is identifying it as a hub too, and the two collide
> >> and crash the stack.
> >> 
> >> But I can't find anything that is looking at the PID (0x0050) or the
> >> definition (HUB_0050) anywhere in the code. 
> >> 
> >> I'll go pull the NEC defs and set up something else instead of simply
> >> adding it to the FTDI probe list.
> >> 
> > 
> > It seems to me you have a problem with a hub (perhaps the root hub or a
> > motherboard hub if you don't have an external one) and this has nothing
> > to do with the ftdi device at all.
> 
> I assume we're talking about a multi-port usb to serial adapter, correct?
> 
> If so, they generally do have a hub included in the device.
> 
> Example:
> 
> ugen1.3: <vendor 0x0409> at usbus1
> uhub4: <vendor 0x0409 product 0x0050, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 3> on usbus1
> uhub4: 7 ports with 7 removable, self powered
> 
> Then the individual ports look like this:
> 
> ugen1.4: <FTDI> at usbus1
> uftdi0: <FT232R USB UART> on usbus1
> ugen1.5: <FTDI> at usbus1
> uftdi1: <FT232R USB UART> on usbus1
> (etc.)
> 
> We use these for serial console ports, they're (relatively) cheap and have generally been well supported.
> 
> The above info is from an 8.3 box.
> 
> Just wanted to clarify that there is likely a hub in the serial box Karl is working with…
> 
> Charles

Oh, interesting.  The biggest ftdi dongle I have is 4 ports, using the
ftdi 4232 chip.  I guess to get more ports than that, folks are now
using an internal hub and multiple ftdi chips.

So for some reason there's a problem with the hub, and that's probably
preventing it from getting as far as seeing the ftdi parts that are
downstream of that.

-- Ian




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