From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 30 13:10:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DDEFAA8AC for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 13:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81AA7A30F for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 13:10:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40002305; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:10:43 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w3UDAgO1017674; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:10:42 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w3UDAcIM017673; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:10:38 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:10:38 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? Message-ID: <20180430131038.GA17639@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180429140256.GA8201@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180429224951.537940ad.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180430044253.GA14278@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180430070646.58320fbd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180430052322.GA14629@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180430070843.6ddffc999f02d2fc9e1cc7d2@sohara.org> <20180430121729.GA16523@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180430133035.1991f048976d5c9eb7cc84fd@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180430133035.1991f048976d5c9eb7cc84fd@sohara.org> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 13:10:45 -0000 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > > > > > It surprises me however that nobody has stepped forward and said "I > > > > run two local X-servers", or "I use user switching all the time with > > > > XXX" - why is that? > > > > > > I don't do it now, but I have run multiple X servers using > > > startx and switching with Alt-F., IIRC the only required magic was > > > to give each server a distinct number. > > > > No, thanks, startx won't do, I need user authentication to access the > > session. > > Yep I rather thought you would. > > > I have tried running several local X-servers from xdm but for some > > reason the second server would not start. > > Even if you get it going (I'm sure it's possible just fiddly like > anything with xdm) I'm pretty sure xdm will only authenticate at login time > and you'll still be able to switch sessions with Ctrl-Alt-F without > logging in unless something automatically locks the X session when you > switch VTs (which isn't normal behaviour). I see your point, and you are most probably right. From this point of view, there is no difference between two X-servers running from xdm, or from startx. I may as well use some password-protected screensaver (I think xlockmore can do that) starting after a timeout. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859