From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 30 02:58:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA03523 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 02:58:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from info1.info.tampere.fi (info1.info.tampere.fi [212.63.6.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA03515 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 02:58:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lmkjuksi@info1.info.tampere.fi) Received: from info1.info.tampere.fi (pc106.soitto.info.tampere.fi [212.63.8.106]) by info1.info.tampere.fi (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA02672; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:57:34 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <35E92316.C5702532@info1.info.tampere.fi> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:01:58 +0300 From: "Jukka Similä" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG CC: tips@egroups.com Subject: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone noticed that asking a question in -questions might be very frustrating; I have now asked several times about my cd-rom problem, and I haven't received a single answer - Not even "look at the mailing list archives" one. I have checked out bug-reports, and obviously my problem is a closed case, that just doesn't help me a bit: I have done just what reads in mail archives - I still got the same problem. But I really am happy we got this marvellous support for FreeBSD, if one has a problem, well just ask in -questions and voila! One maybe gets an answer, maybe not, but who cares, everything is fine as long as we can ASK the questions, nobody really wants to get any answers. And besides, I like nothing better than talking to my computer, expecting no answer. And if Sue ever again want's to point me to -questions I think I'll skip it instantly, it's much faster to read every single manual page through there is to read than ask anything in -questions. Sorry for crossposting: I wanted to receive as much audience as possible ;) Jukka Simila To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 30 03:23:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06732 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 03:23:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from witch.xtra.co.nz (witch.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06671 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 03:21:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker (210-55-210-87.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.55.210.87]) by witch.xtra.co.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA23799; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:20:19 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199808301020.WAA23799@witch.xtra.co.nz> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: DVL Software Limited To: "Jukka Similä" Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:20:29 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: FreeBSD-Questions Reply-to: junkmale@xtra.co.nz CC: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <35E92316.C5702532@info1.info.tampere.fi> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id DAA06712 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 30 Aug 98, at 13:01, Jukka Similä wrote: > Has anyone noticed that asking a question in -questions might be very > frustrating; I have now asked several times about my cd-rom problem, and I > haven't received a single answer - Not even "look at the mailing list > archives" one. I have checked out bug-reports, and obviously my problem is > a closed case, that just doesn't help me a bit: I have done just what > reads in mail archives - I still got the same problem. Be patient. Try reposting the question. Also, check the topic under which you post. Sometimes that has a bearing on how quickly you get an answer. FWIW: I had the same problem with my IDE card. It took over a week. And remember: the person that knows the answer may not be reading the list when you post. Post again. -- Dan Langille DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - my [mis]adventures http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 30 11:31:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18116 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 11:31:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from papaya.mail.easynet.net (papaya.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18089 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 11:31:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@sour.cream.org) Received: (qmail 12185 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1998 18:30:36 -0000 Received: from boothman.easynet.co.uk (194.154.100.117) by papaya.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 30 Aug 1998 18:30:36 -0000 Received: by Boothman.easynet.co.uk (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 19:29:45 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980830192945.00799100@ice.cream.org> X-Sender: andrew@ice.cream.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 19:29:45 +0100 To: Chris Martino , Carlos Agudelo From: Andrew Boothman Subject: Re: Video Card for X Windows Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <01bdd33e$35239780$2416b4cf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0d Unregistered Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 07:21 29/08/98 -0400, Chris Martino wrote: >I have a 4mb s3 ViRGE video card that works quite well under both FreeBSD >and Win95. They are priced very resonably too. I'm looking for a video card as well. Is that the S3 ViRGE DX or GX-2? There appears to be two different types available, the xfree86 web site lists a bunch of numbers, but I'm not sure which ones which. Thanks!! -- Andrew Boothman http://sour.cream.org PGP Key Available From Public Servers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 30 13:36:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02369 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:36:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dsinw.com (dsinw.com [207.149.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02347 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:36:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamellr@dsinw.com) Received: (from hamellr@localhost) by dsinw.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id NAA22747; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:33:18 -0700 (PDT) From: rick hamell To: Jukka Similä cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, tips@egroups.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD-Questions In-Reply-To: <35E92316.C5702532@info1.info.tampere.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > And if Sue ever again want's to point me to -questions I think I'll skip > it instantly, it's much faster to read every single manual page through > there is to read than ask anything in -questions. Perhaps you're not asking the question in a way it makes sense. Perhaps the person who is able to answer your question is away on a buisness trip and hasn't checked his e-mail. Perhaps you wish to pay for some support, so that someone WILL answer your question. I've personally been in the same position also. I've also not seen any of your questions posted, though I make it a point to read every single post to that group. I don't mean to jump all over you... but seeing messages like this annoys me like nothing else. The FreeBSD is providing a valuable service for free! The only thing that they ask, is you answer other questions that you know. Now, if you're having problems with your CDROM, and nobody has answered your question, perhaps you should look at getting a new CDROM into your system, and checking the problem out. THAT is most likely your answer. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 30 16:14:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19825 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 16:14:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19805 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 16:14:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA20646; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:43:24 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id IAA02417; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:43:04 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980831084304.F606@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:43:04 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jukka_Simil=E4?= , newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: tips@egroups.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD-Questions References: <35E92316.C5702532@info1.info.tampere.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C35E92316=2EC5702532=40info1=2Einfo=2Etampere=2Efi=3E?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3B_from_Jukka_Simil=E4_on_Sun=2C_Aug_30=2C_1998_at_01:01?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?:58PM_+0300?= WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 X-Mutt-References: <35E92316.C5702532@info1.info.tampere.fi> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 30 August 1998 at 13:01:58 +0300, Jukka Similä wrote: > Has anyone noticed that asking a question in -questions might be very > frustrating; I have now asked several times about my cd-rom problem, and > I haven't received a single answer - Not even "look at the mailing list > archives" one. I have checked out bug-reports, and obviously my problem > is a closed case, that just doesn't help me a bit: I have done just what > reads in mail archives - I still got the same problem. > > But I really am happy we got this marvellous support for FreeBSD, if one > has a problem, well just ask in -questions and voila! One maybe gets an > answer, maybe not, but who cares, everything is fine as long as we can > ASK the questions, nobody really wants to get any answers. And besides, > I like nothing better than talking to my computer, expecting no answer. *sigh* Yes, it's very possible not to get an answer. I wonder how many of these questions do go unanswered. That's one of the reasons why I wrote http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. Rick Hamell mentioned one reason: people who answer -questions do it in their spare time. I haven't seen anything from Doug White for a while, and I've been pretty busy too, so it looks as if you've chosen a bad time. Post your message again, and I'll reply (but it might be "beats me"). > And if Sue ever again want's to point me to -questions I think I'll skip > it instantly, it's much faster to read every single manual page through > there is to read than ask anything in -questions. Definitely. If you can find an answer in the man pages, don't bug -questions. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 30 18:54:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05153 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 18:54:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05125 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 18:53:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmwraal@ibm.net) Received: from kato (slip-32-100-221-185.wa.us.ibm.net [32.100.221.185]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA146040 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 01:52:57 GMT From: "James Wraalstad" To: Subject: pppd options Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 18:52:52 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bdd482$168517a0$b9dd6420@kato> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199808290230.MAA00645@phoenix.welearn.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have been reading older man pages vs 2.2.7 and RFC's about pppd options. My question is why has the +ua option in conjunction with a "login" file as applied to pap authentication has been declared obsolete in favor of the pap-secrets file in conjunction with the "name", "domain", "user", and other options? Thank you for your attention. James Wraalstad To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 30 20:06:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11924 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:06:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11907; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:06:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Leonard_Ong@iname.com) Received: from ZhugeLiang (dyn3005a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.44.5]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.8.5/RADNET) with SMTP id KAA00960; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:04:59 +0700 (WIB) Message-Id: <199808310304.KAA00960@server2.rad.net.id> X-Sender: ong@pop.rad.net.id X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1.0.49 (Beta) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:50:17 +0700 To: Andrew Boothman From: Leonard Ong Subject: Kernel Update In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980830192945.00799100@ice.cream.org> References: <01bdd33e$35239780$2416b4cf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Friends, Unline friends in US, I can't connect to Internet all the time, and it's expensive. So in other words, in time when we are learning, we need to reinstall all over again and again. it wouldn't efficient if i have 2.2.6 kernel and cvs it to 2.2.7 ( Kernel only src-sys ). Is there a way like in li*ux that we d/l the whole kernel sources than untar/ungzip them to get the latest kernel ? instead of 'CVS' it ? That way i never have to update to internet each time i reinstall my system. The last questions is, I want to use Fat32 and Vfat features available only in 2.2.7, and i'm using 2.2.6. Should i update the kernel only or should i update other part too ? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 31 01:47:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA13560 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 01:47:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA13555 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 01:47:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from charon@freethought.org) From: charon@freethought.org Received: from c131496-a ([24.1.100.144]) by ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA466; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 01:46:22 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980831014615.009508a0@mail> X-Sender: stygian-charon@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 01:46:15 -0700 To: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD-Questions Cc: tips@egroups.com In-Reply-To: <19980831084304.F606@freebie.lemis.com> References: <35E92316.C5702532@info1.info.tampere.fi> <35E92316.C5702532@info1.info.tampere.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:43 AM 8/31/98 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >> And if Sue ever again want's to point me to -questions I think I'll skip >> it instantly, it's much faster to read every single manual page through >> there is to read than ask anything in -questions. > >Definitely. If you can find an answer in the man pages, don't bug >-questions. Though it could be quicker just to try every single alpha-numeric permutation possible of every character in the command line/config file than to read 10^42 man pages, most of which make little or no sense to newbies... not to be sarcastic, or anything, but... well, yes, to be sarcastic :) -charon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 31 08:19:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03692 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:19:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spectre.honk.org (honk.org [206.191.48.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03685 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:19:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpoulin@honk.org) Received: from sw47 ([207.219.2.96]) by spectre.honk.org (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA08158 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:10:16 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980831111741.0090b4b0@honk.org> X-Sender: mpoulin@honk.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:17:41 -0400 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Martin Poulin Subject: mounting/unmounting disks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A word of caution to anyone considering playing around with mount/umount without really understanding what you are doing - DON'T!!! Thankfully I had my important files backed up, but boy-oh-boy what a weekend it's been. I learned a few things though, so it wasn't a total loss. (like don't unmount your /usr directory - I don't know how I managed to do that, but I did.) 2 installs later (don't ask) and I have my system almost back to where it was. M. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 31 08:54:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08255 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08246 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:54:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Received: from localhost (chrisc@localhost) by vnode.vmunix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA16157; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:53:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:53:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Coleman X-Sender: chrisc@vnode To: Martin Poulin cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mounting/unmounting disks In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980831111741.0090b4b0@honk.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It you accidentally umount a normally mounted partition, you can type 'mount -a' and it will remount all the drives you normally have mounted. It finds them in /etc/fstab like it does at boot up and then mounts them. -Chris On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Martin Poulin wrote: > A word of caution to anyone considering playing around > with mount/umount without really understanding what you > are doing - > > DON'T!!! > > Thankfully I had my important files backed up, but > boy-oh-boy what a weekend it's been. > > I learned a few things though, so it wasn't a total loss. > (like don't unmount your /usr directory - I don't know > how I managed to do that, but I did.) > > 2 installs later (don't ask) and I have my system almost > back to where it was. > > M. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 31 09:45:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16188 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:45:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alinga.newcastle.edu.au (alinga.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.160.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16183 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:45:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from youdaman@reincarnate.com) Received: from reincarnate.com (c9707010@peach1.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.140.219]) by alinga.newcastle.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23487; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 02:44:01 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <35EAD2F1.52A361AC@reincarnate.com> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 02:44:34 +1000 From: Stewart Heckenberg Reply-To: c9707010@alinga.newcastle.edu.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Poulin CC: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mounting/unmounting disks References: <3.0.3.32.19980831111741.0090b4b0@honk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Martin Poulin wrote: > A word of caution to anyone considering playing around > with mount/umount without really understanding what you > are doing - > > DON'T!!! I'll do as I damn well please. Besides, that's the fun of FreeBSD - I can make one little modification to a file and there goes my pooter. Now that's fun (as long as it doesn't happen too often). :) > Thankfully I had my important files backed up, but > boy-oh-boy what a weekend it's been. Backups, schmackups, don'tcha just love re-installing everything and starting from scratch. Go on, you know you like it. > I learned a few things though, so it wasn't a total loss. > (like don't unmount your /usr directory - I don't know > how I managed to do that, but I did.) Now that sounds fun :) > 2 installs later (don't ask) and I have my system almost > back to where it was. Ready to do it all again! Wahey! :) Ciao, Stewart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 31 09:50:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17035 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:50:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alinga.newcastle.edu.au (alinga.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.160.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17021 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:50:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from youdaman@reincarnate.com) Received: from reincarnate.com (c9707010@peach1.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.140.219]) by alinga.newcastle.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23632 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 02:49:48 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <35EAD44E.FF3CA147@reincarnate.com> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 02:50:22 +1000 From: Stewart Heckenberg Reply-To: c9707010@alinga.newcastle.edu.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Newbies Subject: Woohoo! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, Isn't installing and re-installing great? After a zillion different installs I've settled for the minimalist approach - bin and manpages distributions only :) I figure I'll only really use g++ and dialup my University server, so I'm set... who needs X anyhow - bah! If I want pretty GUI stuff I have Windows on another partition - if I want to develop code in an environment similar to the one at University I have FreeBSD. Ah, such is life, Ciao, Stewart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 31 14:29:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05741 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:29:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spectre.honk.org (honk.org [206.191.48.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05736 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:29:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpoulin@honk.org) Received: from localhost (mpoulin@localhost) by spectre.honk.org (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08784; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:20:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:20:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Marty Poulin To: Chris Coleman cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mounting/unmounting disks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ah, but what if you were boneheaded enough to edit /etc/fstab first? (not me... no .... me not that dumb...) =========== Quotefile(c) 1997 Martin Poulin ======================= A diplomat is a man who always remembers a woman's birthday but never remembers her age. - Robert Frost On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Chris Coleman wrote: > It you accidentally umount a normally mounted partition, you can type > 'mount -a' and it will remount all the drives you normally have mounted. > It finds them in /etc/fstab like it does at boot up and then mounts them. > > -Chris > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 31 14:34:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06582 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spectre.honk.org (honk.org [206.191.48.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06555 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:34:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpoulin@honk.org) Received: from localhost (mpoulin@localhost) by spectre.honk.org (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08791 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:25:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:25:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Marty Poulin To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mounting/unmounting disks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Sean Harding wrote: > > Unmount usr shouldn't require a re-install. A simple reboot should bring > it back to its old state, unless you took it out of /etc/fstab as > well... Looks like the cat is out of the bag. OK, I admit it!! I took it out of /etc/fstab first!! please stop reminding me... I just want to put this in my past... > Or you can just mount it back up manually. Yeah, it will probably > bring your system down, but it shouldn't really be a big deal... > > Sean Well, I didn't just unmount it and edit /etc/fstab. I also foolishly moved a bunch of files around, apparently losing some important ones. Believe me. The system was toast. (And it was a good excuse to wipe my 1GB HD I had used for Windoze and install FreeBSD on IT). M. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 31 14:45:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08400 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from survis.surfnet.nl (survis.surfnet.nl [192.87.108.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA08395 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:45:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl) Received: from bones.surfnet.nl (actually host adsl-145-99-64-197.snelnet.nl) by survis.surfnet.nl with SMTP (PP); Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:44:08 +0200 Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:42:53 +0200 (CDT) From: Ronald van der Pol Reply-To: Ronald van der Pol To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: getting audio to work Message-ID: Organisation: SURFnet bv Address: "Radboudburcht, P.O. Box 19035, 3501 DA Utrecht, NL" Phone: +31 302 305 305 Telefax: +31 302 305 329 X-X-Sender: rvdp@surah.surfnet.nl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a Dell Optiplex GXa with Crystal chips audio. I am trying to get audio to work. I rebuilt the kernel with: controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr $ dmesg | tail sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa sb0: $ date > /dev/pcaudio bash: /dev/pcaudio: Device not configured $ ls -l sb* ls: sb*: No such file or directory What is the name of the audio device. Is there a simple way to test whether the audio device is working or not. Any suggestions? rvdp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 1 04:35:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA01473 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 04:35:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from beef.cybertouch.org (h24-64-138-128.mt.wave.shaw.ca [24.64.138.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA01468 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 04:35:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beef@beef.cybertouch.org) Received: from localhost (beef@localhost) by beef.cybertouch.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA26323; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 07:30:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from beef@beef.cybertouch.org) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 07:30:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Lanny Baron To: c9707010@alinga.newcastle.edu.au cc: FreeBSD-Newbies Subject: Re: Woohoo! In-Reply-To: <35EAD44E.FF3CA147@reincarnate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ummm...hi Stewart, A great countryman of yours wrote a marvelous book so you can install it right the first time....His Name; Greg Lehey.. The book: The Complete FreeBSD. Get it. You will love it. And Greg too. Lanny On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Stewart Heckenberg wrote: > Hi all, > > Isn't installing and re-installing great? > > After a zillion different installs I've settled for the minimalist > approach - bin and manpages distributions only :) > > I figure I'll only really use g++ and dialup my University server, so > I'm set... who needs X anyhow - bah! If I want pretty GUI stuff I have > Windows on another partition - if I want to develop code in an > environment similar to the one at University I have FreeBSD. > > Ah, such is life, > > Ciao, > Stewart > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 2 12:08:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14095 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:08:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14090 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevink@mindless.com) Received: from rjiredff (ppp-207-214-213-59.sntc01.pacbell.net [207.214.213.59]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id MAA01411 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980902120704.007a0840@pop.netaddress.com> X-Sender: gekk0@pop.netaddress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 12:07:04 -0700 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: gek Subject: BSD ezine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For those of you who don't read Slashdot http://www.slashdot.org thre was a post on there about a new ezine that is directed towards the various BSD OS's, which include FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, etc.... the url is http://www.daemonnews.org/ I looked at it last night, and it is pretty cool...although on the "Answer guy" sections, I'm not sure if it was me, or if the layout of the page was a little squidged over to th left a bit. it also seems Ms. Sue Blake is a author in the newbie section. Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 2 15:43:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19777 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:43:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from papaya.mail.easynet.net (papaya.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19759 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:43:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@sour.cream.org) Received: (qmail 17940 invoked from network); 2 Sep 1998 22:42:44 -0000 Received: from boothman.easynet.co.uk (194.154.100.117) by papaya.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 2 Sep 1998 22:42:44 -0000 Received: by Boothman.easynet.co.uk (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:40:52 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980902234051.0079d6e0@ice.cream.org> X-Sender: andrew@ice.cream.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 23:40:51 +0100 To: Ronald van der Pol From: Andrew Boothman Subject: Re: getting audio to work Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0d Unregistered Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 23:42 31/08/98 +0200, Ronald van der Pol wrote: >What is the name of the audio device. Is there a simple way to test >whether the audio device is working or not. Any suggestions? Go on then, I'll do it....... The freebsd-newbies mailing list isn't really intended for asking questions, it's intended for people to discuss their newbie-esque experiences and share them with others. The best place for such questions is freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Don't worry, you don't have to subscribe to that mailing list, they'll CC you a copy of any replies you get. For more information send a mail containg "info freebsd-newbies" and "info freebsd-questions" in the message body on seperate lines to majordomo@freebsd.org. Catchyezlater.. -- Andrew Boothman http://sour.cream.org PGP Key Available From Public Servers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 2 19:55:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29487 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29475 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:55:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmt@bigfoot.com) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA21586 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dante.lbl.gov.lbl.gov (dante.lbl.gov [128.3.13.76]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA21573 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from noosphere (user-38ld62g.dialup.mindspring.com) by dante.lbl.gov.lbl.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29010; Wed, 2 Sep 98 19:54:39 PDT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980902195522.007d47c0@ieng9.ucsd.edu> X-Sender: jdweinst@ieng9.ucsd.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 19:55:22 -0700 To: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeff W." Subject: changing log on message? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know how to change the MOTD, but how do I Change the message that appears before you log in? What's the filename to edit?? --Jeff W. "dude things out here are out of ahh... ahh. known reality." "mail me my damn toothpaste. yeah... that's right bitch. and send it priority too." My trippy page (note the address change): http://2cb.home.ml.org ICQ #: 17989474 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 3 03:29:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25015 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 03:29:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gate.ljis.ml.org (cyberworld.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25009 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 03:29:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ljohns@cyberworld.demon.co.uk) Received: (from ljohns@localhost) by gate.ljis.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00357; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:28:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ljohns) Message-ID: <19980903112826.C252@ljis.ml.org> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:28:26 +0100 From: Lee Johnston To: "Jeff W." , newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: changing log on message? Reply-To: lee@uk.freebsd.org References: <3.0.5.32.19980902195522.007d47c0@ieng9.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980902195522.007d47c0@ieng9.ucsd.edu>; from Jeff W. on Wed, Sep 02, 1998 at 07:55:22PM -0700 X-Mutt-References: <3.0.5.32.19980902195522.007d47c0@ieng9.ucsd.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Jeff, I think it's in /etc/gettytab, try altering the im field in default. Regards, Lee. On Wed, Sep 02, 1998 at 07:55:22PM -0700, Jeff W. wrote: > I know how to change the MOTD, but how do I Change the message that appears > before you log in? What's the filename to edit?? > --Jeff W. > > "dude things out here are out of ahh... ahh. known reality." > > "mail me my damn toothpaste. yeah... that's right bitch. > and send it priority too." > > My trippy page (note the address change): > http://2cb.home.ml.org > > ICQ #: 17989474 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Johnston | | E-Mail: lee@uk.freebsd.org Tel: +44 (0)1207 542 592 | +-------------------------------------------------------+ | FreeBSD UKUG: http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/ | +-------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 3 07:34:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23771 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.austasia.net (ausns1.austasia.net [203.23.167.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA23756 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:34:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beatteam@austasia.net) Message-Id: <199809031434.HAA23756@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 8785 invoked from network); 3 Sep 1998 14:33:18 -0000 Received: from ppp05.melbourne.austasia.net (HELO pc00) (@203.23.160.105) by ausns1.austasia.net with SMTP; 3 Sep 1998 14:33:18 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Brett Gray" To: "Freebsd Newbies List" Subject: Need Help - cant get dialup connection with PAP Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 00:31:51 +1000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, My new ISP (who doesnt support UNIX, FreeBSD, Linux etc.) only provides PPP via PAP. I cant find any manual type help on LCP or LQR (and very little on PAP) in the handbook or in the search engines which decribes error codes etc. I have read the FreeBSD handbook and checked the man pages on the system and edited and configured the ppp.conf file to enable PAP etc.. and the enable verbose logging. But is still fails for some reason... I have attached my ppp.conf file to this email and a copy of the log file (below). Could someone please look over these and tell me where Im going wrong? Please??? Thanks in advance.. Brett ------------------------ ppp.conf file reads as follows: default: set debug Phase Chat Connect Carrier LQM LCP Link TCP/IP set device /dev/cuaa1 set speed 57600 set ctsrts set timeout 600 disable lqr deny lqr set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATX3 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" enable dns ozemail: set device /dev/cuaa1 set speed 57600 set ctsrts set phone 12345678 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATX3 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" enable pap accept pap disable chap deny chap set authname brett set authkey password set login set timeout 300 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 delete ALL add 0 0 HISADDR ------------------------------------------------- LOG FILE READS AS FOLLOWS: 09-03 23:48:51 [678] Using interface: tun0 09-03 23:48:51 [679] Listening at 3000. 09-03 23:48:51 [679] PPP Started. 09-03 23:48:51 [679] Dial attempt 1 of 1 09-03 23:48:51 [679] Expecting 09-03 23:48:51 [679] sending: ATX3 09-03 23:48:51 [679] Expecting OK-AT-OK 09-03 23:48:51 [679] Wait for (5): OK --> OK 09-03 23:48:51 [679] Chat: ATX3 09-03 23:48:51 [679] Chat: OK 09-03 23:48:51 [679] Phone: 12345678 09-03 23:48:51 [679] sending: ATDT12345678 09-03 23:48:51 [679] Expecting CONNECT 09-03 23:48:51 [679] Wait for (40): CONNECT --> CONNECT 09-03 23:48:51 [679] Chat: 09-03 23:49:22 [679] Chat: ATDT12345678 09-03 23:49:22 [679] Chat: CONNECT 09-03 23:49:22 [679] *Connected! 09-03 23:49:22 [679] LCP: state change Initial --> Closed 09-03 23:49:22 [679] LCP: state change Closed --> Stopped 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Stopped (3) 09-03 23:49:23 [679] ACCMAP 00000000 09-03 23:49:23 [679] AUTHPROTO proto = c023 09-03 23:49:23 [679] MAGICNUM 9e31498d 09-03 23:49:23 [679] PROTOCOMP 09-03 23:49:23 [679] ACFCOMP 09-03 23:49:23 [679] ???[13] 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: SendConfigReq 09-03 23:49:23 [679] ACFCOMP 09-03 23:49:23 [679] PROTOCOMP 09-03 23:49:23 [679] ACCMAP [6] 00000000 09-03 23:49:23 [679] MRU [4] 1500 09-03 23:49:23 [679] MAGICNUM [6] 5a3fa0f6 09-03 23:49:23 [679] AUTHPROTO [4] 49187 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: SendConfigRej(Stopped) 09-03 23:49:23 [679] ???[13] 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: state change Stopped --> Req-Sent 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: Received Configure Ack (1) state = Req-Sent (6) 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: Received Configure Request (2) state = Ack-Rcvd (7) 09-03 23:49:23 [679] ACCMAP 00000000 09-03 23:49:23 [679] AUTHPROTO proto = c023 09-03 23:49:23 [679] MAGICNUM 9e31498d 09-03 23:49:23 [679] PROTOCOMP 09-03 23:49:23 [679] ACFCOMP 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: SendConfigAck(Ack-Rcvd) 09-03 23:49:23 [679] ACCMAP 00000000 09-03 23:49:23 [679] AUTHPROTO proto = c023 09-03 23:49:23 [679] MAGICNUM 9e31498d 09-03 23:49:23 [679] PROTOCOMP 09-03 23:49:23 [679] ACFCOMP 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: state change Ack-Rcvd --> Opend 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: LayerUp 09-03 23:49:23 [679] Phase: Authenticate 09-03 23:49:23 [679] his = c023, mine = c023 09-03 23:49:23 [679] PAP: brett (password) 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LQM method = 2 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LQR is not activated. 09-03 23:49:23 [679] PapInput: REQUEST 09-03 23:49:23 [679] PapOutput: NAK 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: LayerDown 09-03 23:49:23 [679] Phase: Terminate 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: SendTerminateReq. 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: state change Opend --> Closing 09-03 23:49:23 [679] PapInput: REQUEST 09-03 23:49:23 [679] PapOutput: NAK 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: Received Terminate Ack (2) state = Closing (4) 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: state change Closing --> Closed 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: LayerFinish 09-03 23:49:23 [679] Disconnected! 09-03 23:49:23 [679] Connect time: 1 secs 09-03 23:49:23 [679] Phase: Dead 09-03 23:49:23 [679] LCP: state change Closed --> Initial 09-03 23:49:23 [679] Phase: Dead To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 3 08:28:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00705 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:28:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from s9.ucs.usl.edu (s9.ucs.usl.edu [130.70.118.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00694 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:28:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bjw5371@bp.ucs.usl.edu) Received: from s9.ucs.usl.edu (bjw5371@s9.ucs.usl.edu [130.70.118.9]) by s9.ucs.usl.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1/ucs-client_1.2) with SMTP id KAA13376 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:27:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809031527.KAA13376@s9.ucs.usl.edu> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:27:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Wotring Brian J Reply-To: Wotring Brian J Subject: Re: Need Help - cant get dialup connection with PAP To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: XlFyOgsjS0CmSBeKXHmLTQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi All, > > My new ISP (who doesnt support UNIX, FreeBSD, Linux etc.) only provides PPP > via PAP. > > I cant find any manual type help on LCP or LQR (and very little on PAP) in > the handbook or in the search engines which decribes error codes etc. > > I have read the FreeBSD handbook and checked the man pages on the system > and edited and configured the ppp.conf file to enable PAP etc.. and the > enable verbose logging. > > But is still fails for some reason... I have attached my ppp.conf file > to this email and a copy of the log file (below). > > Could someone please look over these and tell me where Im going wrong? > > Please??? Don't you have to have a pap-secrets file? syntax similar to: * | Brian Wotring ( brian@denalisites.com ) | Denali Sites, Inc. | http://www.ucs.usl.edu/~bjw5371 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 3 19:35:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11746 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:35:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fep6.mail.ozemail.net (fep6.mail.ozemail.net [203.2.192.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11741 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:35:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beatteam@austasia.net) Received: from pc00 (slmlb13p27.ozemail.com.au [203.108.28.91]) by fep6.mail.ozemail.net (8.9.0/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA01676 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:34:09 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199809040234.MAA01676@fep6.mail.ozemail.net> Reply-To: From: "Brett Gray" To: "Freebsd Newbies List" Subject: Solved!!! - cant get dialup connection with PAP Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:30:27 +1000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I solved it! (Took me 6½ hrs... but...) Just for everyone elses info... to save them tearing their hair out... Thanks to Brian Wotring for this...... > Don't you have to have a pap-secrets file? syntax similar to: > > * Not sure.. But I have and already had it (just negelected to mention it) in my original cry for help! And to Steve Fredrich for this.... > It looks like it's complaining about LQR not being activated. In your > default section you have: > deny lqr > try changing this to enable lqr No...this wouldnt work... I had already tried that.. but in the log I kept getting a PAP complaint from my ISP to stop sending LQR... Log reads like this.... 09-03 23:36:16 [655] StopLqr method = 1 09-03 23:36:16 [655] Stop sending LQR, Use LCP ECHO instead. But there is **nothing** on the net to explain these responses... Anyway I came accross another page (somewhere) that said something to the effect that I don't need to disable chap... so I dropped those lines out of my ppp.conf ... enable pap <=- deleted this line accept pap <=- deleted this line disable chap <=- deleted this line deny chap <=- deleted this line set authname brett set authkey password And um... guess what? IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So to Steve and Brian.. Thank you for your help. But I suppose tho moral of the story is 'KISS' Keep It Simple Stupid!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 4 03:20:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04125 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 03:20:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.austasia.net (ausns1.austasia.net [203.23.167.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA04097 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 03:20:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nar@austasia.net) Received: (qmail 20239 invoked from network); 4 Sep 1998 10:19:18 -0000 Received: from ppp05.melbourne.austasia.net (HELO geffen) (203.23.160.105) by ausns1.austasia.net with SMTP; 4 Sep 1998 10:19:18 -0000 Message-ID: <001001bdd7ed$fb3ef4b0$01000080@geffen> Reply-To: "Nigel A Reading" From: "Nigel A Reading" To: Subject: A Quick Question - Fax System Software For FreeBSD Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:17:49 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BDD841.16285DE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BDD841.16285DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good evening learned Colleagues, I have been receiving the newbies list for a while and find the helpful = hints great. 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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BDD841.16285DE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 4 06:30:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20997 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 06:30:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ll.mit.edu (LLMAIL.LL.MIT.EDU [129.55.12.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20991 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 06:30:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bator@ll.mit.edu) Received: (from smap@localhost) by ll.mit.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08322 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809041324.JAA08322@ll.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 09:28:24 -0700 From: Phil Bator Reply-To: bator@ll.mit.edu Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 4 14:14:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06454 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:14:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de (gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06370 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:13:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de) Received: from duffner.konstanz.netsurf.de (surf90.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.90]) by gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA09859; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 23:12:13 +0200 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 23:10:55 +0200 (MESZ) From: Rainer M Duffner Subject: Re: A Quick Question - Fax System Software For FreeBSD To: Nigel A Reading cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <001001bdd7ed$fb3ef4b0$01000080@geffen> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: enigma, http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~enigma X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri 04 Sep, Nigel A Reading wrote: > Good evening learned Colleagues, > Could someone help me with the following with the following question. I am > looking for some Fax Server Software that will run of FreeBSD, If it was to a > have a X-Windows or dare it say it in this forum a windows user > interface would be a great advantage. There's HylaFax - but I think it's not easy. There are other's, but I don't remember the names :-) http://www.vix.com/hylafax/ That's the homepage - but it's also in the port-collection. cheers, Rainer -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |Rainer Duffner, E-Mail: duffner@fh-konstanz.de | | & Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de | |Fachhochschule Konstanz, Germany | |"What's a Network ?" - Bill Gates, early 1980s | | WWW:http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~duffner | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 4 19:31:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23848 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:31:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23837 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:31:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA26804 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:30:11 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:30:11 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <199809050230.MAA26804@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (Last updated 30 August 1998) (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. 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If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources:charters.html) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. 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