From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 11:19:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C30B1065754 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E688FC13 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-7-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.7.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0586B1E41A; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:19:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o26BJ8vV003500; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:19:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:19:08 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "C. P. Ghost" Message-Id: <20100306121908.b3695def.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:19:12 -0000 On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:07:25 +0100, "C. P. Ghost" wrote: > That's true. I love youtube-dl too, as it helps me keep a local > .flv copy, even for videos that have been removed for one reason > or another. A very useful feature, especially for offline operations. > However, there are other video sites like dailymotion. What > downloader do you use for these? None, because I don't know / "need" other sites that steal my time by providing useless videos. :-) > And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime > YT changes its embedding. That's what "make update" is used for. :-) > I wished YouTube would switch > to HTML5, or at least added this as an option. This may happen in the future. YT is one of the main promoters for "Flash" as a means to provide video contents. > I've talked with the IT department of a company recently who > had to switch from perfectly usable barrier-less HTML to Flash. The IT department? Shouldn't this be the responsibility of the department providing the content to be published on the web? > Actually, the IT guys didn't want to, but their management was > adamant. Oh yeah, management. Market share. All new. Revolutionary. Leverage. I could go on for hours. :-) > The main reason wasn't buttons or little animations, > but something much more mundane: the graphics design > company they hired to create their new corporate identity > insisted that the only way to get a 100% pixel-precise layout > was with Flash... and management fell for it. If I hear "pixel precise"... Why don't they provide the content COMPLETELY as PNG images without compression? That would be really 1:1. > Basically, they > wanted to duplicate their glossy brochures 1:1, and didn't care > about reduced usability and accessibility. In this case, my opinion would be: If they don't care, than I don't care supporting them by investing attention on them. They don't deserve it. > Incredibly silly move, > but their company, their decision. Their right. If they want to lose customers (idea: the more people you exclude from the content, the more potential customers you lose). But I agree: Absolutely idiotic. Let's see how much fun they will have when Adobe changes something in their "Flash" format - then everything needs to be re-done. :-) > HTML 5 isn't the problem, that will be easy to implement. It's about > picking the right video codec. There's no high quality codec available > that is both ubiquitous in hardware, and unencumbered by patents. That's true. I didn't want to hide that. A free, open and standardized video codec, capable of carrying video and audio information and providing streaming the content, while being compatible with HTML, and being able to be used in every country, would be a good solution. It HAS to be supported out of the box, at least in terms of web browsers (like the "thing" inside the browser that displays JPG images, to follow my example). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...