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Date:      Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:54:40 -0800 (PST)
From:      Brian Beattie <Brian_Beattie@Atlas.com>
To:        Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended software support <software@kew.com>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: after the release ...
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980320084922.11627B-100000@coyote.prepaid.atlas.com>
In-Reply-To: <35127463.6ACB464@kew.com>

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On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended software support wrote:

> Eivind Eklund wrote:
> > [Drew Derbyshire]
> > > I would suggest after the release a point release method be
> > > developed to allow (perhaps as a port type package?)  The ability to
> > > download/apply critical fixes quickly.
> > >
> > > Simply put, having to track the entire -stable source to get
> > > bugfixes on the CD-ROM is not desirable.
> > 
> > Good suggestion!  Go ahead and do it; I promise to post comments about
> > your design when you post it, and I'm sure Jordan and Mike will, too.
> 
> Drop dead.  You can say it's boring to do and that Real Programmers (TM) don't
> need it, go ahead, but I don't need the sarcasm.
> 
> I neither a CVS expert nor directing FreeBSD release policy.  I'm only
> pointing out a failure in the FreeBSD release cycle, as Jordan pointed out HP
> and Sun have bugs, but THEY have a packaged patch process.  FreeBSD does not,
> it only has "upgrade to the next release" or hand patch any fixes into the
> source and rebuild.  Adding such a patch function seems to be an issue of
> packaging a limited number of critical changes (in 2.2.5 for example, it would
> have been the lpd and the security fixes) into a package.  Under System V, it
> would be pkgadd.  Under FreeBSD the best method seems to be ports.
> 
> You can disagree with me, but I don't need to be ridiculed for making a valid
> suggestion.  
> 

I do not think the reply was entirely sarcasm.  It could be done either
with a patch or a port and if you did it, it might well be picked up an
put on the server.  This whole thing is a volunteer effort, so volunteer
and do something.

Brian Beattie
Atlas PrePaid Services
Brian_Beattie@atlas.com
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