From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 3 0:48:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smople.thehub.com.au (smople.thehub.com.au [203.143.240.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893B037BFF1; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:48:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mckay@thehub.com.au) Received: from dungeon.home (bne67.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.67]) by smople.thehub.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA09482; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:48:26 +1000 (EST) Received: from dungeon.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dungeon.home (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13446; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:49:56 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from mckay) Message-Id: <200007030749.RAA13446@dungeon.home> To: Alan Edmonds Cc: mckay@thehub.com.au, Bill Paul , Chris Wasser , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strangeness with 4.0-S Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 17:49:56 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alan Edmonds wrote: >Bill Paul wrote: >> (I'm starting to regret putting them in there in the first place. Here >> I was thinking I was being nice to people by letting them know what the >> driver is doing, and everybody panics the moment they see them.) > >Maybe prefix the warning with "info" or "warning" and/or some >message like "Don't panic!" Also, would it help to see >"increasing TX threshold to %d" in the message? I appreciate Bill's intent here to inform the public, and I usually code the same way. But I've come to the conclusion that it just scares people, and isn't beneficial after the shake out in -current. Still, I have an alternative suggestion to just ripping out the messages. I believe the most useful option would be to make the default to always store and forward, and allow an option (config file option, or some ifconfig command, sysctl, or some such) to enable the start-before-you've-got-the-data method. I don't think any normal user would see the speed difference. No one would see those messages soon after every boot. And best of all, we wouldn't see the connection hang for several seconds each time that message rolled by. It annoyed me so much I hacked my copy to not do any fancy stuff, and just go store and forward. I still get 10MB/s ftp between boxes. I think it's a clear winner. Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message