From owner-freebsd-net Wed Jan 3 12:28:26 2001 From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 3 12:28:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from tsunami.waterspout.com (tsunami.waterspout.com [208.13.56.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033EA37B400 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:28:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from waterspout.com (tsunami.fw.waterspout.com [208.13.60.34]) by tsunami.waterspout.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA71628; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:28:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from csg@waterspout.com) Message-Id: <200101032028.PAA71628@tsunami.waterspout.com> To: Alex Pilosov Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, wes@softweyr.com Subject: Re: Problems with VLAN and natd. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:26:21 EST." From: csg@waterspout.com (C. Stephen Gunn) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2499.978554019.1@waterspout.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 15:33:39 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:26:21 EST, Alex Pilosov wrote: > Sometimes in the course of human events it is necessary to break with > compatibility ;) I believe netgraph is sufficiently advanced and well-made > system that it should be used as much as possible. Microsoft might argue the same about Windows. Someone has to take the counterpoint around here. ;-) > There's nothing that would prevent OpenBSD people from taking > netgraph and implementing it. I run OpenBSD, and threw the idea a > few times on their mailing lists, and response was less than > enthusiastic...Which lead me to choose FreeBSD for my next networking > project. :) We can't _make_ the Linux folks adopt BSD technologies either, but we continue to jump through hoops for compatability layers in the BSD variants. I'm just advocating a search for prior-art, and/or a friendly design conversation with the other projects _before_ integration into FreeBSD. - Steve -- C. Stephen Gunn | Waterspout Communications, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message