From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 26 21:42:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CEE106566B for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:42:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736F48FC13 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBQLgX5E008376; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:42:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:42:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:42:33 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20091226214233.GB47231@thought.org> References: <20091225204746.GA60638@thought.org> <20091225220131.96fa1f9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20091225213713.GA66009@thought.org> <20091225225343.a97f8b43.freebsd@edvax.de> <20091225235048.GB66009@thought.org> <4B356295.7090802@onetel.com> <20091226042322.GA87670@thought.org> <4B35D90E.4070501@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B35D90E.4070501@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Chris Whitehouse Subject: Re: clicky driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:42:38 -0000 On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 09:36:14AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > > The short answer [Guess] is no, I dont think so. If getting the > > keys to have an auditory feedback with beeps or shorter clicks were > > that easy, it would have been done after 15 years. Even Linux > > lacks this--and I'd bet Minux too. > > Uh, it was done years ago. Look at the xset(1) manual page -- there are > options there to turn on key-click. They've been there since before the > millennium as I recall. Most people find key-click intensely annoying (even > more so if it's on someone else's machine) so it's turned off by default. Oh, yeah. In the late 80's when I joined my Nth startup and worked with several fellow hackers in a large room, my Sun was the only one with the click turned on. It drove my fellow programmers nuts, but that wasn't much I could do. If there were a speaker jack on the 3/80 computers, I would have been willing to wear earphones... > > As it's an X windows thing, it should be available on any OS where you can > run an X server, so any Linux or FreeBSD. Of course, you will need some > sort > of speaker in the machine to generate the noises, but that can be very > rudimentary. If your machine can emit a beep, then it can probably do > key click too. It beep--my old Dell, just extremely faint. My hearing is still good--it's amazing I'm not out chasing cars. But I've tried turing on the key click. Zero. This older computer was high end in 2003 but I don't remember seeing a real speaker, so if it's some IC that's producing the 'beep', I'm outta luck. ...I'm staring at xset.c; maybe the clues are in there. Nothin in the README. gary PS: HA: the click percent is set to the SERVER_DEFAULT. (-1) well, golly-gee-wilikers... . > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php