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Date:      Sat, 03 Mar 2012 12:57:51 -0800
From:      Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org, "K. Macy" <kmacy@freebsd.org>, =?UTF-8?B?eiBXxIVzaWtvd3NraQ==?= <lukasz@wasikowski.net>, Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar@gmail.com>, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: flowtable usable or not
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On 03/02/2012 16:05, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Try breaking that cycle.

... one of the things I've been asking for years. :)

Julian's right though, I think PC-BSD will help, but I still think that
committers should run -current. I've asked privately for our committers
to go back to -current and then have some dedicated development time
where we work together to fix the problems that *we* find in order to
make the project more desktop-friendly overall. I was (figuratively)
laughed out of the room.


Doug

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