From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Dec 2 22:51:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A6737B405; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 22:51:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fB36pAx77677; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 07:51:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <020e01c17bc6$e4a0a980$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "John Baldwin" Cc: "FreeBSD Chat Mailing List" , "Technical Information" , "Mike Meyer" References: Subject: Re: Feeding the Troll (Was: freebsd as a desktop ?) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 07:51:09 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John writes: > My Mom has found that rebooting her Windows > system once a week makes it "run better". Some consumer versions of Windows have mild problems with things like memory leaks, or other things that get messed up over time. The professional (NT-based) versions do not have any such problems that I know of, although some application systems that run on NT have been known to require occasional restarting. > I will admit that Windows has trained people > to believe that computers crashing are normal, > and that rebooting or reinstalling the OS to > fix things are normal. Windows did not do this. Personal computers have been crashing and freezing up ever since they were invented. There has almost never been a desktop operating system for PCs that is truly stable from a professional perspective; NT and its relatives are the closest approach. FreeBSD and similar UNIX operating systems are far more stable, but they aren't well suited to desktop use. > I've worked at companies that performed a > scheduled reboot of every NT machine every Friday > evening because they couldn't trust the machines > to stay up for more than a week. Typically that means that they don't know what they are doing, or they are running buggy applications. > I've walked up to idle NT servers, brought up > the control panel just so I can write down some > notes on their memory, etc. and had the machine > blue screen and crash. That has never happened to me. > Regardless, Windows has definitely lowered the > expectations of the average Joe computer user. No. The average Joe never had high expectations to begin with. Most people who have never worked with anything except PCs have no concept of what "reliable" is actually supposed to mean. > Most don't even realize that they should expect > a machine to reliably function for months or > years at a time without a glitch. Yes. See above. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message