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Date:      Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:27:34 -0700
From:      Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org>
To:        Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Mailman's moderation checkbox?! - Why are so many FreeBSD haters on this list? (Troll bait)
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On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 13:33:21 -0500
Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:
> On 4/25/20 12:57 PM, Morten Bo Johansen via freebsd-questions wrote:
> > On 2020-04-25 Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >   
> >> I join you and ask list moderators to ban that person from the list.  
> > 
> > freebsd-questions is on news.gmane.io, so you can use a news
> > reader, like e.g. slrn to kill file authors, threads, etc.,
> > that you don't want to see. In slrn it takes just two key
> > strokes to do that! Maybe that is better than to crank up your
> > blood pressure over some single individual? ;)  
> However, that only will cover me, mitigate my own annoyance. 

...and preserve your honor.

> This will 
> not cover spreading of misinformation through well respected mail list 
> to my regret allowing itself to be abused. It will not cover people I 
> respect and routinely get help from from being abused by disrespectful 
> (to name it the mildest) person on this respected mail list.

I personally find it quite difficult to glean complete information from
moderated mailing lists. What usually happens is that the human bias of the
moderator(s) prevents the dissemination of some information and the mailing
list becomes useless except as a window to the worldviews and information the
moderators deem worthy.

As to the people you get help from, I daresay most of them have been around the
block on this and aren't even paying attention to this thread. I personally feel
you have to give others (especially those of science) the chance to reject
information themselves, and not try to "protect" them from anything. Down that
road is madness. :)

Note well that the person you are up in arms against serves a useful purpose
by demonstrating that almost anyone can raise a topic here, and thus giving a
strong indicator that more complete information is available on this list. 
-- 
Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org 
>>>> *The opinions expressed above are entirely my own* <<<<

Listening to eyewitness descriptions of an event you saw
yourself, you might begin to wonder about this thing we
call "history".



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