From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 9 16:18:24 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9D6CA7466 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 16:18:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14AE619EC for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 16:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:21:03 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 684DB3CC3F; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:18:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v09GICuH001985; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:18:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:18:12 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dear Sir ,Did Author understand your suggest correctly - Please, do not use top post. And use inline quoting. Message-Id: <20170109171812.0fe7e640.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483977602.3345289.841962937.1493357E@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483977602.3345289.841962937.1493357E@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with 979786BE6F9 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2237 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 16:18:24 -0000 On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:00:02 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Dear Sir > > Than you for your suggest , sorry but author not used google > ,fb,linkedin ,twiter & , do not watched TV > s 1982 and planned not any relation to software industry That has nothing to do with "mailing list politeness". On this mailing list, as on many others, top-posting is discouraged because it destroys the "reading flow". Look at my replies for example: I only quote what I reply to, and I write my replies below the text I'm referencing. This might help you understand why top-posting is such a problem, especially in (more or less) technical discussions: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Or even simpler: A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? I think it is clear now. :-) > but will try to perform your suggest author would send only > questions and answers Learn to use your mailer program properly. Use the "reply to all" or "reply to mailing list" function for the answers you got. Do not open a new discussion thread with every reply. Do you have an idea how terrible this looks in the mailing list archive? > simple demand tty, x11 without any desktop env ,not planned have > in compjuter any 1kb of date (have 256 gb disk) > only browsers firefox,opera,chromium ,tor wine ,virtualbox No problem. All this software is available on FreeBSD. But you need to get your priorities right: FIRST is to get your wireless networking up. SECOND is to install the software, THIRD is to configure it to your needs. Additionally, you _always_ need to conform to "list politeness" by doing your "homework": 1. Read the documentation mentioned. Re-read messages that also covered the topic or question. 2. Write what you did, exact command line preferred. 3. Write what the system replied or how it reacted, exact message preferred. 4. State what diagnostic steps you have already taken. Consider the messages that have already been written. You will find most answers there. > and > some 300kb application software 300 kB? What software would that be, please? ;-) > no any e-mail adress related to os You can use a good GUI or TUI mailer (Thunderbird, Sylpheed, alpine and others you can choose from, "connected" with IMAP), or just use a crappy web mailer. :-) > in case of author task is simplier 1 x11 with signal parametr -level, > frequency band ,free channels > 2 x11 -to start application software ,browser youtube for pause That is where FreeBSD shines in comparison to many mainstream Linux distributions: You can exactly select which software to install and how to use. > and only 4 desk (exception until 6 in one time ) Virtual desktops? Those can be added to fvwm2, and they are built-in to WindowMaker. Please re-read the suggestions and examples for window managers. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...