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Date:      Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:11:28 PDT
From:      "Cosmic 665" <the_hermit665@hotmail.com>
To:        multimedia@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend
Message-ID:  <19990731211129.89220.qmail@hotmail.com>

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   I've gone through 24 video cards (not to mention 2-3 PC's as well) so 
here's the deal on video cards.....

    RiVa is the only way to go.  With 3dfx merged with "STB" the
(Super Terrible Board)...  all their latest drivers suck and so do their 
cards.  Although "3Dfx" has made good products in the past, STB (In my 
opinion) has always sucked.  Riva's are a very solid chipset.  The only 
reason they sucked in the past was that they lacked support (for anything 
other than a win32 OS).  But now they have finally come out their act and 
kick ass now.
     S3 Sucks these days,  they offer only empty promises in their 
developement.  I purchased a Hercules Terminator Beast (savage 3d) and it's 
still not supported under most OS's (Not to mention that Metal, the "new" 
S3TC API is worthless).  The Savage 4 suffers the same pathetic fate.  
However there is an X Server for the Savage 3D & 4 chipsets (BTW it has bugs 
:P)... check out

http://members.xoom.com/s3dlinux/

If your gonna get a S3 card.. get a #9 (www.nine.com).  They have LOTSA 
VIDEO RAM.. however their chipsets are still S3 based (well most of them).  
ATI (Another Terrible Interface) is another card to stay away from (more 
empty promises).  Matrox is a good chipset (even thouh it lacks OpenGL).  
The rest of the cards on the Market will not be supported (too well) so I 
would stick with a RIVA.
     Don't get a RIVA from Hercules.  You will get put on a 90Day waiting 
list (and you will recieve your card whenever they feel like it).   My 
stupid Savage 3D (I explained earlier) was ordered in Jan, and I got it in 
mid April.  My friend ordered the new Riva TNT-2 (pre-order) 2 months ago 
and they told him to expect his card in about another 30+ days (I'm guessing 
he will receive it early sept).
    Creative Labs Suck so just get a Diamond.  Even though the herules has 
the best "RIVA" card on the market, Diamond & ASUS are right behind by a 
couple #'s and you "Will Recieve" these cards on time :P
so good luck...


  -cosmic-665

>From: Randall Hopper <aa8vb@ipass.net>
>To: multimedia@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org
>Subject: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend
>Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:00:24 -0400
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>      I'm looking for recommendations for a good 3D board (PCI) that has 2D
>& 3D hardware support in the new XFree86 pre-4.0 release.  I'd prefer that
>it support 3D-in-a-window and >= 1280x1024 resolution.  Voodoo3?  Riva128?
>RivaTNT?
>
>      Comments on any board would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Randall Hopper
>aa8vb@ipass.net
>
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