From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 20:29:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7742C32; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@h2.funkthat.com) Received: from h2.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2179F6; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:29:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h2.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h2.funkthat.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r0DKTrNS099306 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:29:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@h2.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by h2.funkthat.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id r0DKTrEl099305; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:29:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:29:52 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: how long to keep support for gcc on x86? Message-ID: <20130113202952.GO1410@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Adrian Chadd , Steve Kargl , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org References: <20130112233147.GK1410@funkthat.com> <20130113014242.GA61609@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20130113053725.GL1410@funkthat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 54BA 873B 6515 3F10 9E88 9322 9CB1 8F74 6D3F A396 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (h2.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:29:53 -0800 (PST) Cc: Steve Kargl , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:29:53 -0000 Adrian Chadd wrote this message on Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 23:44 -0800: > > People are still ironing out kinks/differences with clang. Anyone > saying otherwise is likely pushing an agenda. :-) > > Thus I think adding clang-only code to the system right now is very, > very premature. There still seem to be reasons to run systems on GCC > instead of clang. > > If you have a need for new instruction support, perhaps look at adding > it to our base GCC for the time being? I did look at it briefly, but I don't know gcc's internals, and it would take me 5+ hours to do it, while someone who does know gcc would take abount a half an hour (just a guess)... I don't have the free time I used to, otherwise I would of done it by now.. > Remember, you're not the only consumer of the system. :-) Hence why I asked.. :) -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."