Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 22:52:29 -0400 From: Laurence Berland <stuyman@confusion.net> To: Stan Osborne <stan@craigslist.org> Cc: billf@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: advocacy/21238: poor performance; missed opportunities Message-ID: <39BEEBED.84311DC7@confusion.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0009121913380.30467-100000@cnewmark.craigslist.net>
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Stan Osborne wrote: > > <snip> > > As for your claim that I did not provide specifices, do you need > more information than my statement that we used FreeBSD 4.0? > Yes, the developers need more than that. You cannot simply say "freebsd version x is slow, please make it faster." To many people freebsd is as fast or faster, so to figure out why your setup is slow is impossible just by knowing you are using freebsd 4.0. I understand you cannot divulge your application, but if you could disclose some sort of statistics on the sort of system calls it makes, how it stores data, and the frequency of said calls in an expected run, it would probably help many people. Also, the output of uname -a couldn't hurt; your kernel config would be downright useful to some. Please remember this is a volunteer effort and you cant expect people to try ten billion combinations until they happen to hit yours. While I understand all these sort of details might not be the sort of thing you'd like to post in a PR, you should phrase the post in a less <asbestos>flame-oriented manner</asbestos>, and possibly offer this information to anyone who is willing to work on the issue. There are plenty of trolls and zealots who will file PRs in hostile tones with no content. If you don't want to be labeled as one by a group of people with lots of work and little time, you might want to try and be more positive and helpful in your emails, reports, etc. I'm about to start my first year of college, and one of my goals is to start going through and writing patches that will (hopefully) close PRs. If I have to wander through post after post of useless flameage, I just might get discouraged. I'm not saying you're a troll, I'm just saying you need to act a little more professional, and maybe a bit more friendly. And if you are just another troll, stop wasting everyone's time. Laurence Berland Intern, Flooz.com Northwestern '04 stuyman@confusion.net > Stan > > On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 billf@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > > Synopsis: poor performance; missed opportunities > > > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > > State-Changed-By: billf > > State-Changed-When: Tue Sep 12 18:18:48 PDT 2000 > > State-Changed-Why: > > User fails to provide benchmarks, specifics, details, or > > anything that would prove that he is not either clueless or a troll. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21238 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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