From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 17:16:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0742106564A for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C555A8FC23 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIZ000CZ6MZ1W20@VL-MO-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 May 2009 13:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49FB2E5E.9090707@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:16:14 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> <20090501164110.GA44753@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-reply-to: <20090501164110.GA44753@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Cc: Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:16:29 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 04:04:34PM -0400, PJ wrote: > > [snip] > >>> Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY >>> If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be set >>> to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or >>> "ca(fr)". >>> >> This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything >> that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which is >> rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get the >> accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's just a pita. >> > > To some extent it depends what applications you use. I use vim & > LaTeX. > > In vim I can get digraphs for email etc. :help dig > > For hardcopy I use LaTeX for some Finnish and, for example, umlauts are > \"{o} etc. > > So basically I don't need a foreign keyboard because my applications > sort that out for me. I'd recommend using applications that don't need > digraphs entering from the keyboard. > > >>>> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle" >>>> >>> If you don't need layout switching just delete this. >>> >> I guess I wasn't clear. Toggling was meant to mean switching back and >> forth; switching - just once. I would like to use switching but it seems >> to only work one way. Can't switch back. rtAlt switches from us to the >> ca (which oddly seems to mean French, but nothing to do with Canadian or >> French Canadian. Only fluxbox brings it back and then rtAlt no longer >> works. Weird. >> Any idea where the documentation is for this? >> > > Check out ~/.fluxbox/keys and that it's not interfering. There's a > manpage for it: fluxbox-keys(5) > > >> The man page is rather foggy and has no mention of XkbOptions or >> XkbLayout or anything about "grp:toggle" >> > > The X docs are a disgrace IMHO. Where are the docs about the new > options such as dontZap etc? They don't seem to exist. > > [snip] > > Regards, > > Glad to hear I'm not the only one complaining about documentation. The language use is not a question of applications but of text - I don't have problems in any of my applications in entereing the language text except on xorg. I can manage it with the current setup, but I just find it strange that I cannot get the ca(multi) functioning correctly. Could it be a question of the physical keyboard? I haven't yet tried this one that works correctly on the FreeBSD machine, but that's next. On the FreeBSD the ca(multi) does function with multiple accents like the umlaut - with two keypresses - but on this XP box, the multi gives me one-stroke accents for the French Canadian accents, upper as well as lower case except for the ^ caret. I rather doubt that Tijl Goosemans has enabled the same capabilities for his *nix or FBSD box as I have on my XP; otherwise I would have had that done long ago. As I said before, I can set up the ca(multi) but it's just not the right one. Just for laughs, I'm going to try this keyboard on FreeBSD and see what happens. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php