From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Feb 7 19:48:15 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774335353F4 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2021 19:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DYfpQ0QJ5z3HGg for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2021 19:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.112.240]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MzQTm-1m47UB1U1Y-00vLiC; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 20:48:11 +0100 Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 20:48:10 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: Patrick Mahan , User Questions Subject: Re: Suggested upgrade for a GeForce GT 450 Message-Id: <20210207204810.d575ae00.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:oRxKVmu5BQ2Fy29PXKYo5LWkugwDasRFjpUJGPleNV8fUPia3uF 6wll3PQ9CVRY8QsvM9P6hFNR+3l1QJpX8F3oiMmp6GkuCogseO91lXkVHI9SKiggA1KBq+5 RntZ4yOu2reIWj+V3lSuqSogOi1E+M2oKIjBBzbMDA5pVgeqTBjD68qDouP/JhrRZhCHTmN 43Vg+7bV/GP5P98VI7b9A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:yyf7GIQsAIA=:pvw+mMCEMqauYX/D3fjHDu WxNX9sPNVHOYv6VsZbK/vCaVxSIYwaMLf9xZC5CrAoNyEa9KbM3HlfhguqjPUFsb2hwxWVmfz jU5gYfE3Wlbx1wJ91zAatUBmAJ7wLLATbSw7GyhwDJCDOdD8sd8KnDbUj56jQAzwpKRRgb9DJ zGdLs2cMp+HqmP9MG+rR9UWBpO2UDTxKtpRKZOryCx3TeouCWN4HKCSdVsMnR0+tOBI30AGBl yA3lqZ80tLuKXRORqT/e2ghqPdkONvVzDPodUHcpsjCKtE5g3PMKAadwowsBksy+T2xLMfufd DFJBjgtryLQayUArIHoTRMSdc+Hsj/JVDFrb+ngbJ0z/Mh+nhLZ4PMDXQiHaRqW2s1iHLAP/w z+parxFQevg9uN2VvgZ4a4Qz9fxw2Hx7V3rPU/qYriMNMNzxUIZvYR5lrTB/R X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DYfpQ0QJ5z3HGg X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.17.24) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.45 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[212.227.17.24:from]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.12.112.240:received]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.93)[-0.932]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[212.227.17.24:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.987]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.227.17.24:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.17.24:from]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2021 19:48:15 -0000 On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 16:57:47 +0100, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > However, it turns out that nVidia in a nightmare for Open-Source, so > you cannot do anything except what they give you with a binary blob > driver, that is basic display stuff. If you want to do OpenCL or > similar then forget nVidia. That is also my individual experience with nVidia. While there are open source drivers, they're not as good as the binary ones supplied by nVidia, so if you expect 3D stuff to work (and most desktop environemnts today cannot work without them), you will have to use the original nVidia drivers, because neither "nv" nor "nouveau" would provide more functionality and performance than "vesa" (as "lowest common denominator") would. > After 20 years of being loyal customer of nVidia I have switched to > AMD RADEON RX580 simply because they support Open-Source while nVidia > does not. In the past, ATi had excellent open source support for all the features of the graphics card, and there was one (!) driver that supported them (named "ati"). Worked out of the box, no further fiddling with xorg.conf options or XML files... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...