From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 01:43:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CE916A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:43:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A00443D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:43:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.132] (port=43724 helo=smtp1.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Dpywk-0003Pf-Fk; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:43:30 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:50048 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Dpywf-0007ns-Ua; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:43:25 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: m.hauber@mchsi.com Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:41:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200507060229.56175.danny@ricin.com> <200507052106.27869.m.hauber@mchsi.com> In-Reply-To: <200507052106.27869.m.hauber@mchsi.com> X-Face: "0Qv=,p:+]LvuqrtS4U\z3k"qN=.1]@=?utf-8?q?=258=3F=3BPoab=23v=27F=7E=0A=09!Wm=5Fe-=24=7EL=5D=3B?=>[c*L^Qoladj)x@mH}Bqz"vLO?Zdl}[@V@=?utf-8?q?U=3Fx3=23lI=3A=0A=09=24DN=7E!Hr?=@K`-mNv"zXm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507060341.54839.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD (Beastie vs Penguin) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:43:32 -0000 On Wednesday 6 July 2005 03:06, Mike Hauber wrote: > On Tuesday 05 July 2005 08:29 pm, you wrote: > > It's the imposing upon from religious groups (and well, let's > > say that I don't think they're muslims) that I find not only > > annoying but, yeah, downright dangerous. Throwing out 2-3 > > centuries of enlightenment and scientific advance is not a good > > idea. > > > > Greets, > > > > Dan > > Come on, now... Just because someone is a Christian, it doesn't > mean he/she's a quack. _Every_ religion has their extremists. I > don't think it's very cool to knock whole societies of faith > (regardless of what faith it is) based on the whims of the few > who are too narrow-minded to see past their glasses... > > Thanks, > > Mike I agree. They can think whatever they want. That's fine with me. But like I said, they have no right to impose their belives upon others and certainly not upon a group of people who provide something technical (like an OS) for free. They have no right to do that, they have every right to think what they want to think. So have I. Religion should be merely a private matter. And if so I have the highest respect for someone doing or not doing or undoing or redoing something out of religious belief. And yes, most religious people (muslim, jew, christian, both catholic or reformed) *are* much more moderate than their leadership. So, when are they going to stand up? It's their movement, not mine. It's their sense of justice, not mine. Are they so diverted that they've lost beforehand? As long as they don't I reckon they agree with their extreme leadership. And they surely insult and condemn me (a secular gay gay who has been in a 10 year happy and monogam relationship with one person so far thank you how many rednecks can say that? -- not implying you are one). So I find a little offensive here certainly not unappropriate. It's probably needed. The American Taliban is not all that far away. In fact they're quite powerful, more than the "moderates" seem to think. Greets, Dan