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Date:      Wed, 7 Aug 2013 18:30:02 GMT
From:      Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: conf/181116: CURRENT build always uses bmake, even though WITHOUT_BMAKE is specified
Message-ID:  <201308071830.r77IU2Um037560@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR conf/181116; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To: "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@juniper.net>
Cc: "FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org" <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>,
 "freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org" <freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: conf/181116: CURRENT build always uses bmake, even though WITHOUT_BMAKE is specified
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:24:15 -0700

 On Aug 7, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@juniper.net> wrote:
 
 >=20
 > src/Makefile does not read bsd.own.mk so does not see src.conf
 > it does however see make.conf
 
 Ah, but src.conf controls WITH* (and the option is documented in the manage,=
  along with all the others). You accidentally broke POLA :(.
 
 > More importantly, is this a "test" or is there a percieved need to
 > continue building with fmake?  If so why?
 
 I gave up waiting for bmake and all the associated infrastructure to be back=
 ported to stable/9 (and I know there's a snowball's chance in hades that it'=
 ll be backported to stable/8), so I figured out how to make the test infrast=
 ructure work independent of bmake.
 
 > I was aiming to get rid of WITH[OUT]_BMAKE soon - in time for 10.0
 
 This is a really bad idea. The fact that bmake causes conf/179111 without a m=
 itigation strategy is reason alone to leave this knob in because I don't tru=
 st all makefiles that exist outside of FreeBSD to work sanely without set -e=
 . Heck, a lot of the Makefile snippets in FreeBSD don't behave sanely withou=
 t set -e, as noted in the bug (and those are just a handful).
 
 Management at $work would agree that it makes no sense wasting engineering h=
 ours chasing down build faults.=



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