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Date:      Fri, 07 May 1999 13:56:41 -0600
From:      Otto Solares <solca@fisicc-ufm.edu>
To:        Oscar Bonilla <obonilla@fisicc-ufm.edu>
Cc:        rocket@fisicc-ufm.edu, rbaessa@fisicc-ufm.edu, amontano@infovia.com.gt, sysadmins@inf.utfsm.cl, edmartz@micro.com.gt, dpalomo@hipernet.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [Studded@gorean.org: FreeBSD vs. Linux under load (Was: Re: Fact or  Fiction (Unix vs NT))]
Message-ID:  <37334579.335A1886@fisicc-ufm.edu>
References:  <19990506185359.C302@fisicc-ufm.edu>

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Oscar Bonilla wrote:
> 
> que les parece?
> 
> -oscar
> 
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: FreeBSD vs. Linux under load (Was: Re: Fact or Fiction (Unix vs NT))
> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 17:41:12 -0700
> From: Studded <Studded@gorean.org>
> Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority
> To: Kent Stewart <kstewart@3-cities.com>
> CC: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> References: <199904150654.XAA23108@gms.gmsnet.com> <37161B6A.BCA9C1CA@3-cities.com>
> 
> Kent Stewart wrote:
> 
> > One of the reasons I'm using FreeBSD is because I was told by many
> > people that Linux is unstable under heavy loads and that FreeBSD
> > isn't. Whether that is true or not, it is what many Unix people
> > believe. My ISP went from Linux to BSDI and their system stability
> > went up a factor of 10 from my point of view.
> 
>         Our *extensive* testing on this very topic has proven conclusively that
> FreeBSD stands up under loads with thousands of simultaneous
> connections, where linux falls down at around 800. The problem seems to
> be in the number of file descriptors allocated per connection. My
> personal best is 5,382 IRC users on one FreeBSD box, there are other IRC
> servers that have done over 8,000.
> 
>         Some of the linux diehards on our network are still trying to make a go
> of it, but even the latest kernels just don't hold up under heavy load.
> They may last a day or two, but eventually something in the networking
> layer seems to break down and the box becomes unreachable. Different
> apps with different load patterns may differ of course, but for
> something like ircd/ftpd/httpd FreeBSD will beat linux hands down on the
> same hardware, every time.
> 
>         In fairness, this isn't all that bad of a thing really. Linux was
> designed to be a desktop OS for having fun with unix, and BSD was
> designed as a server platform for serious work. Each of those is a good
> thing. Vive le difference I say. :)
> 
> Doug


Me parece muy diahuevo, cada vez que alguien
habla bien o mal de linux me gusta porque sienten
su presencia, como que dicen, "PUTA ESE ES LINUX",
que diahuevo, no es la unica noticia pura mierda de
linux que he visto, seguramente no sera la ultima,
lo mas diahuevo es que son muchas mas las noticia diahuevo
que las pura mierda. (sera que a freebsd al  ponerle
un modem nuevo y diahuevo truena a lo shuco, montano?? 
sera que al ponerlo en una red con NIS funciona bien?
sera que con freebsd pueden hacer un vergon Beowulf?
http://www.beowulf.org
sera que pueden hacer sistemas multi-head de 3d?
sera que pueden meterle Oracle?
sera que pueden ponerlo en casi todos los primeros lugares de 
benchmarks de super computadoras como aparece linux? ?? ??
http://www.haveland.com/cgi-bin/getpovb.pl?search=Parallel%3A&submit=List+all+Parallel+Results
http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?990313.whplace.htm
http://access.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Headlines/990405.Roadrunner.html
http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/breaking/internet/docs/350387l.htm
http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?99039.ecsuperlinux.htm
sera que pueden meterle una super business app como
SAP R/3?
sera que pueden correr java y tener un JDK?
sera que pueden portearlo a las siguientes arquitec-
turas: Digital ARM, AP1000+ Multicomputer, DEC Alpha,
DEC MIPS R2000/3000/4000, PDA's (ej. PalmPilot),
ELKS (8086, 8088, x186, x286), m68k (Motorola
68020, 68030, 68040, 68060), MIPS ARC (Advanced Risc
Computing), NeXT Hardware, Macintosh family, IBM PowerPC,
Apollo DN hardware, IBM MCA (PS/2, RS/6000, AS/400),
Tandy Family, SGI (Indys, MIPS, Intel procesador 
hardware SGI), Sun Sparc (sun3, sun4c, sun4m, sun4d), 
Sun ULTRASparc, Digital VAXes, obviamente Intel 386+ (ia-32)
y el futuro Intel Merced (ia-64).
No hombre si puta ["DICEN"] que es mas diahuevo que
linux! Facts vs. Fiction?? Preguntomosle a IBM, SGI,
a Sun, Intel, Oracle, Sybase, Netscape, Siemens, por
mencionar ALGUNOS porque entonces inviertieron pisto
(dinero, marmaja, etc.:) en linux, tal vez porque
es muy pura mierda como ["DICEN"]?
Sera entonces que si hace todo esto no puede con 
grandes cargas? Sera que es un OS de desktop? 
Si ustedes saben de algun otro sistema
operativo que haga todo esto y ademas este creciendo
mas que linux en popularidad 
( http://leb.net/hzo/data/r.9904.txt ) me
avisan por favor, definitivamente me voy a switchear a
ese sistema ya que definitivamente sera el mas vergon. :=)

Otto Solares
pro-linux y que @:*&!
solca@fisicc-ufm.edu


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