From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 6 03:04:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B8416A41F for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 03:04:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDD343D49 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 03:04:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821A921CB78 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 22:04:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 36649-13 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 22:04:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f01:224:1::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D09121CB73 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 22:04:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 22:04:31 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <20051005184437.GA36369@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20051005184437.GA36369@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1244779.ZHgrcSARvS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200510052204.36883.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: Hidden spot on hard drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 03:04:44 -0000 --nextPart1244779.ZHgrcSARvS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 05 October 2005 01:44 pm, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > the company where I work (with Windows) is evaluating a copy protection > product that stores info somewhere on the HDD where the [1] user cannot > touch it, [2] a format will not erase it, [3] and Norton Ghost will not f= ind > it. =20 1) No such animal. 2) Ah - the bootblock, as others have mentioned. 3) Of course, that doesn't say anything about Ghost v$(current + 1). To be blunt, your vendor is lying to you. At best, they can make copying l= ess=20 convenient than otherwise, but can't stop a dedicated cracker. Why, then,= =20 would you want to make life more difficult for your paying customers while= =20 barely slowing those capable of doing you the most harm? One thing I learned while growing up through the C=3D64 and Amiga days is t= hat=20 copy protection never, ever, EVER works. Ever. Under no circumstances. I= t=20 only makes your legitimate users (deservedly) hate you. Are you sure that'= s=20 what your company really wants? =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart1244779.ZHgrcSARvS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDRJRE5sRg+Y0CpvERAlB7AJ4264yckZJuG0KroApjmznzyjnMDQCcDPlX mckfQviJcZVuKj7NCT3TfuI= =OUOx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1244779.ZHgrcSARvS--