From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 4 08:59:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10505 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 08:59:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles315.castles.com [208.214.167.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10387 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 08:59:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03578; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 08:55:42 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809040855.IAA03578@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Andrzej Bialecki cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: kzip in the brave new ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 04 Sep 1998 10:41:36 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 08:55:39 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > ...and I should add to this, that other floppy-generation related tools > > > are also affected. E.g. ELF kzip doesn't work, because it tries to link an > > > ELF stub with a.out kernel. > > > > kzip is obsoleted by the new bootloader, although I'm not sure that's > > Hmm... I need to take a closer look at the new bootloader, then. I > remember you were saying that it doesn't work yet with HDDs, right? (or > were they floppies..) I've explicitly left out the major/minor calculation for harddisks until the extender is ready (a few days), so at the moment it's not "ready" as such. > > going to help your case much. (kzip is smaller than the new > > bootloader). > > Then we probably want to keep it, because there is already problem with > space on the boot.flp. However, this also probably means that the > installation floppies will stay a.out, which also means running an a.out > kernel. Am I right? Right now, the kernel is a.out; it's not clear if we're going to be ready for an ELF kernel or not. (Personally I think it'd be a good thing, but we need some more items first.) The kzip strategy can be made to work with both a.out and ELF, but the latter will need some assistance from someone that has an interest in making it work. If we go for an ELF kernel, but don't get kzip sorted in time, then the installation floppy kernel will have to be a.out. That will probably suck just as much if not more. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message